In October 2005, was told that True Fitness would have a branch at Jaya 33 at Section 13, Petaling Jaya. 2005年10月，被告知，真正的健身将有33处，亚在第13节，八打灵再也。 It would be True Fitness third outlet in Malaysia, after这将是真正的健身第三出路在马来西亚，后 Desa Sri Hartamas 经社部斯里兰卡Hartamas in June 2005 and 2005年6月 USJ 10 (Taipan) 日本环球影城10 （大班） in June 2006.在2006年6月。 So, again, in June, but in year 2007, True Fitness Jaya 33 finally opened its door.因此，再次，在6月，但在2007年，真正的健身再也终于开设了33门。
Armed with my newly upgraded lifetime membership, decided to drop by at True Fitness at Jaya 33 in June 2007.有了我的新升级的终身会员，决定放弃了在真正的健身再也33在2007年6月。 Therefore, bear in mind that this review was prepared in June 2007 and some of the things may have changed since then.因此， 考虑到这次审查准备在2007年6月的一些事情 ， 可能已经改变了。
This new gym is located at a strategic location for office workers in the vicinity of Section 13 and 14 Petaling Jaya.这一新体育馆位于战略位置，办公室工作人员在附近的第13和第14八打灵再也。 It is directly opposite to Public Bank, Hong Leong Bank and Maybank in Section 14.它直接对面的大众银行，丰隆银行和马来亚银行在第14款。 If you come from Bulatan Rothman, it will be on your side left.如果您来自Bulatan罗思曼，这将是对你的身边离开。 This white building is huge and you will not miss it.这是巨大的白色建筑物，你不会错过它。
The entrance of the gym is at the ground floor with new Coffee Bean located directly opposite of it.入口处的健身房是地下新咖啡豆直接位于对面的。 Supposedly, one just has to register at the ground floor and use the internal staircase to go to first floor.按说，一个刚刚已经登记在地下，并使用内部楼梯到一楼。 However, because the renovation is still ongoing (70% completed as of 24 June 2007), after scanning the card at ground floor, member has to take an access card and take a lift (or escalator) to work out at the first floor.然而，由于目前仍在进行整修（ 70 ％完成了2007年6月24日） ，在扫描卡地下，会员已采取出入卡，并采取升降机（或电梯）工作在一楼。
So, what do we have at the ground floor in addition to the reception area mentioned earlier?因此，我们有什么地下除了接待区前面提到？
It has the typical disco look alike sales area.它具有典型的迪斯科看都销售面积。 I saw True Bliss there.我看到了真正的幸福存在。 True Bliss, which is True Fitness merchandise arm, sells clothes, supplements, and drinks, is here too.真正的幸福，这是真正的健身商品手臂，出售衣服，补品，饮料，在这里也。 I found kid nursery there at one corner.我发现孩子在幼儿园有一个角落。
If you walk straight from the ground floor entrance, you will see rows of treadmills with plasma televisions hanging on the floor.如果你步行直接从地下入口处，你会看到一排排跑步机与等离子电视挂在地板上。 I found it bit dark over here.我发现它有点黑暗这里。
I went to first floor to look for the changing room.我去一楼找更衣室。 Lockers, toilet, bathrooms, steam room and sauna are all there.储物柜，卫生间，浴室，蒸汽房和桑拿都存在。 It is bigger than the one at Sri Hartamas and about the same size like the one in Taipan.这是比一个在斯里兰卡Hartamas和同样大小像一个大班。
As expected, towel service is not provided.正如所料，毛巾不提供服务。 So does pad lock.因此，不垫锁。 So, remember to bring yours.所以，记得把你的。 As mentioned many times, without towel service, instead of striving to be the best, True Fitness has actually taken a step backward.由于多次提到，没有毛巾的服务，而不是努力成为最好的，真正的健身实际上已经采取了倒退。 What a pity.真可惜。
After putting my stuff into the locker, I went straight to the free weight area.经过我的东西进入更衣室，我径直向自由重量区。 More benches here than Hartamas and Taipan branch.更多长椅比Hartamas和大班处。 It also has the complete set of handles.它还有一套完整的处理。
Apart from having more weights and handles, it actually raised the floor for the dumbbells area.除了有更多的重量和处理，它实际上提出了发言哑铃地区。 That spot is covered with special type of carpet which absorbs noise and impact if one drops the dumbbell.这点是覆盖特殊类型的地毯其中吸收噪音和影响，如果一个下降的哑铃。
I found the decline bench with adjustable leg area and instantly appreciated it.我发现可调下降板凳腿地区和即时赞赏。 The current one at Taipan branch is fixed permanently.目前的一个大班科是固定的永久性。
If you prefer resistance machines, you may like this place.如果您喜欢抵抗机，您可能会喜欢这个地方。 In terms of the machines arrangement, it is better than the other two outlets.在机器的安排，这是优于其他两个分店。 It has grouped the machines together according to muscle groups.它分为机器一起根据肌肉群。
As for the cardio machines, as expected, it has treadmill, cross trainers, bikes and Cardio Wave machines.至于心肺机，正如预料的那样，它跑步，交叉培训，自行车和心血管波机。 For those who have been spoiled with cardio machines with plasma screens at Taipan branch, too bad, you will not see the similar machines here.对于那些谁惯坏了心肺机与等离子电视在大班科，太糟糕了，你将不会看到类似的机器在这里。 One row of the machines are facing the busy road (Jalan Semangat), the other row is facing a boring building at the side.一列的机器正面临着繁忙的公路（路Semangat ） ，其他行正面临着无聊的建设方面。
I saw three studios, two for the dance classes and one for RPM.我看见三个工作室，两个班的舞蹈和一个转速。 The studios are about the same size like those in Taipan branch and definitely bigger than Hartamas one.电影大约相同的大小如在大班科和肯定大于Hartamas 1 。 Less pillars with all of them are at the back of the studio.减支柱与所有这些都在后面的工作室。 Therefore, better layout design for studios here.因此，更好的布局设计工作室这里。
The so called Fitness Department is located at first floor too.所谓健身部位于一楼太多。 I saw a row of cubicles here.我看到了一排房间，在这里。 They are used by the personal trainers to do sales.他们所使用的私人教练做销售。 The body fat measurement machines are found in some of the cubicles.体脂肪测量仪是在一些房间。 Right beside each machine, the BMI charts are pasted on the wall.每台机器旁边的体质指数图表贴在墙上。
Saw a DJ booth too.看到了太多的DJ展位。 The equipments are not there yet and you will not find any disc jockey spinning any tracks.该设备还没有，你不会找到任何唱片骑师纺纱任何轨道。
Also, True Yoga is not completed yet.此外，真正的瑜珈不是尚未完成。 For those holding passport memberships, unfortunately, we are not allowed to enter True Yoga.对于那些持有护照成员，不幸的是，我们不能进入真正的瑜伽。 Additional charge will be incurred to attend Yoga classes here.额外的费用将产生参加瑜伽班这里。 Yes, was told that Yoga classes here will be different than other outlets.是的，被告知，瑜伽班此处将不同于其他渠道。 I do not want to speculate, but I will be let down if this is the confirmed policy.我不想猜测，但是我会失望，如果这是证实的政策。 After charging for shoe lockers at Taipan branch, now, Yoga classes too?扣除鞋在大班柜处，现在，瑜伽班吗？
I went to fourth floor to take a look at the swimming pool.我去四楼看看泳池。 True Spa will be at the fourth floor too.真正的温泉疗养将在4楼也。 By the way, second and third floor are all car parks.顺便说一下，第二和第三层的所有停车场。 Fourth floor, half of the space is meant for car parks too.第四层，一半的空间是指停车场太多。 So, I believe that it is possible to drive all the way up to fourth floor to park you car and then dip into the swimming pool right after you come out from car.所以，我认为是有可能的所有驱动器的方式多达4楼公园你的汽车，然后下降到游泳池后，你走出车。 Ahem. Ahem 。
The pool depth is between 3 to 4.5 feet, I guess.泳池深度为3至四点五英尺，我猜。 It is about 30 meters in length and 3 to 4 meters in width.这是约30米长， 3至4米宽。 Expected it to be much bigger.预计它的规模变得更大。 Also, it is an outdoor pool.此外，它是一个室外游泳池。 So, I doubt that members are allowed to use the pool when it rains.所以，我怀疑，成员可以使用这里的游泳池当下雨。 However, the view is pretty nice up here.然而，认为是相当不错了这里。
True Fitness CEO, Patrick Wee 真正的健身首席执行官帕特里克黄金辉 , is targeting to recruit about 5,000 members for Jaya 33 outlet. ，目标是招募5000名成员，再也33插座。 With about 70,000 sqft built up area at Jaya 33, the 5,000 figure is nothing compare to his goal to have 10,000 members for Taipan branch which has 80,000 sqft built up area.大约有70,000平方英尺建立地区再也33 ， 5000的数字是什么，他的目标相比，有10 000名成员大班科已建立了80,000平方英尺面积。 Now, look at the figures – 5,000 members for 70,000 sqft of Jaya 33 and 10,000 member for 80,000 sqft for Taipan outlet.现在，看看这些数字- 5000名成员的70,000平方英尺的亚33和10,000名成员， 80,000平方英尺的大班插座。 Yeah, 50% less with only 10,000 sqft difference.是的，低50 ％ ，只有10,000平方英尺差异。 Will be interested to know how he comes out with the numbers.都会有兴趣知道，他如何出来的数字。
If you stay or work around PJ area, go there for a week of free trial and let me know what you think.如果您停止或变通PJ地区，去那里进行为期一周的免费试用，让我知道您的想法。 Here is the location map of Jaya33 building:以下是位置图Jaya33建设：
What I Like: 我喜欢：
- The machines are brand new and you do not have to fight for car park space for now.该机器是全新的和你没有争取停车场空间现在。
- The gym has high ceiling which is about 14 feet.健身房具有较高的上限大约是14英尺。 So, unlike the previous two outlets which are located in shop lots, this one looks more spacious.因此，与前两个网点分别设在店口，这看起来更宽敞。 Air ventilation is better too.空气流通好太多。
Things to watch out: 事情要留意：
- No towel service and additional charge for Yoga classes.没有毛巾的服务和额外收费的瑜伽班。 Before you sign up, ask about the towel service, Yoga package and contract period.在您申请，要求对毛巾的服务，瑜伽包和合同期限。 Go for each term in the contract carefully.每学期去合同中仔细。 Read two of my articles for more advise:阅读两个我的文章更多的提醒： 10 Tips To Choose A Good Gym 10秘诀 ， 选择好的健身房 and和 Don't Sign Any Gym Contract Before You Read This 没有签署任何合同之前健身房你读这 . 。
- Swimming pool may not be big enough.游泳池可能不是足够大。 But, it may be subjective, when comes to size, ahem.但是，它可能是主观的，当谈到大小， ahem 。
- As pointed by reader Alan, True Spa is currently only restricted for women as the company is having problems obtaining a license for it to run as a unisex spa.正如格林斯潘指出的读者， 真正的温泉疗养 ， 目前只限于对妇女 ， 该公司是有问题获得许可运行它作为一个中性温泉。
- Was told Jaya33 has about 1,000 car parks.被告知Jaya33有大约1000名停车场。 Until 30 June 2007, the parking fee was RM3 per entry. 6月30日为止2007年，停车费是每令吉入境。 Now, the parking fee:现在，停车费：
- On normal office hours during weekday, it is RM1.50 for the member, but for other office worker, it is RM4.50 per entry.在正常办公时间在平日，这是RM1.50的会员，但为其他公司职员，这是RM4.50每个条目。
- After 5 PM 6 PM and weekends, the fee is rm1.50 per entry. 下午5点以后周末下午6时，收费是rm1.50每个条目。
- As for the fee, was told it is about average RM160 monthly fee for 3-year contract for home based package.至于收费，被告知这是RM160每月平均费用为3年的合同为基础的家庭包。 I believe that you can get better deal if you know their sales gimmick. For those who have joined, I will appreciate if you could leave your comment on how much you have paid to join True Fitness at Jaya 33.我相信，您可以得到更好的处理，如果你知道他们的销售花招。 对于那些谁也加入，我会请你离开你对你有多少支付加入真健身在亚33 。
Updated: Based on the comments left,after negotiation, the package is about RM4,032 for 3-year membership which is average of RM112 per month. 更新：根据左侧的评论之后，谈判的一揽子是RM4 ， 032 3年的成员是平均每月RM112 。
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Jonz // Jonz / / Jan 13, 2008 at 7:36 PM 08年1月13日在下午7时36分
The passport membership for True Fitness is priced at about RM 112 per month for a 3 year membership.护照成员是真正的健身室售价约为112每月为三年的成员。 The catch is you gotta pay thru either EON Bank, CIMB or Public Bank credit card to get a 24 month installment.渔获是你得支付或者通过国贸银行，联昌国际或大众银行的信用卡，获得24个月分期付款。 Other credit cards like Alliance Bank, HSBC, Citibank will get a 12 month installment which breaks down to about RM 336 per month.其他信用卡一样联盟银行，汇丰银行，花旗银行将获得12个月的分期付款打破下降到约336室每月。
Alan // 艾伦 / / Jan 15, 2008 at 12:07 AM 2008年1月15号在上午12点07分
Don't need to elaborate further on the membership fee this Jonz has done that well in his comment.不需要进一步阐述会员费这Jonz已做到这一点以及他的意见。 Just to add that the passport membership described includes access to True Yoga as well (which, like the Taipan outlet, includes a studio for Hot Yoga classes as well as the standard classes).刚刚添加的护照成员描述包括获得真正的瑜伽以及（其中，如大班出口，包括演播室热瑜伽班以及标准班） 。 Also, parking is currently priced at RM1.50 PER HOUR for True Fitness members.另外，停车场，目前售价为RM1.50每小时真健身成员。 After 5 pm, parking is priced at RM1.50 per ENTRY.下午5点以后，停车的价格为RM1.50每个条目。 The RM1.50 per ENTRY rate also applies to weekends and public holidays.每个条目的RM1.50率也适用于周末及公众假期。
Access to True Spa is currently only available for women as the establishment is having problems obtaining a license for it to run as a unisex spa.获得真正的温泉疗养，目前仅适用于妇女建立是有问题获得许可运行它作为一个中性温泉。 And I agree with Mun that the lack of towel service really lowers the image and credentials of this fitness centre which could really give Fitness First a run for its money otherwise.我同意门，缺乏真正降低毛巾服务的形象和凭据这一健身中心可真正让健身第一手中分得利润，否则。 I could do with having to bring my own lock, but the absence of towel service is really quite frustrating.我所能做的了，使我自己的锁，但没有毛巾的服务确实很令人沮丧。
Kudos to Mun for yet another superb review on a True Fitness outlet.声望到屯门又一次出色审查一个真实的健身场地。 I can't wait to see your review for the Pavillion outlet!我迫不及待地想看到您的审查，亭口！
May // 5 / / Apr 2, 2008 at 2:46 PM 2008年4月2日在下午2时46分
Joined True Fitness (TF) Jaya 33 in Oct 07 as my office is located in the same building.加入真健身铁蛋白（ TF ）再也33 10月7日作为我的办事处设在同一建筑物内。 Was approached by a barage of TF counsellors trying to sell their packages to all the offices located in the same building.接触的barage的金融顾问试图出售其软件包的所有办事处设在同一建筑物内。 Was 1st given the package of RM209 p/m + RM100 (precessing fee, joining fee waived), this is a 2 year contract, home package incl.是第一考虑的一揽子RM209 p /米+林吉特（进费，入会费免除） ，这是一个2年的合同，家庭包含。 of yoga.瑜伽。 After persuading us to bring along a few others who are interested in joining and after all the gimmick-y show of talking to my manager, etc..在劝说我们携同其他几个谁有兴趣加入，并在所有的噱头钇查看谈论我的经理等。 The rate was brought down to RM149 p/m + RM100 (precessing fee, joining fee waived) but have to pay thru the few affiliated credit cards.这一比率降低到RM149 p /米+林吉特（进费，入会费豁免） ，但必须支付通过几个附属信用卡。 Later got to know that a collegue manage to secure a the same package for RM139 p/m.后来认识了一个同事管理，确保同一包RM139 p /米 Bummer!!长号！
ling // 玲 / / May 29, 2008 at 10:00 PM 2008年5月29日在下午 10 点
i joined true fitness in june 2007 and have been plagued with problems since then.我加入了真正的健身于2007年6月，并已困扰的问题，因为当时。
Problem 1: lying staff问题1 ：躺在工作人员
the general manager sam signed me and a friend up.总经理萨姆签署我和一个朋友了。 i took a 1-year package and am paying a ridiculous RM208.90 per month for it.我在1年的包装和我付出了可笑RM208.90每月它。
sam suckered my friend into taking the 3 year package for RM4675 by telling him his family members could all join at a 50% discount on the same package.三suckered我的朋友到采取三年包RM4675告诉了他的家庭成员都可以参加在50 ％的折扣优惠相同的包。 what he didnt tell my friend was that “family members” have to be under 25.他告诉我的朋友didn't是， “家庭成员”必须是25岁以下。 considering my friend was 26 at the time and said his OLDER brother and PARENTS wanted to join, and that sam DIDN'T say anything about this clause, we can only conclude he blatantly lied to get my friend to sign on the line.考虑我的朋友是在26日的时间和说，他的哥哥和家长想加入，并没有说山姆任何关于这一条款，我们只能得出结论，他公然撒谎让我的朋友签署线。 it was only when his brother (aged 28 then) went to sign up that the floor manager told him about the age limit!!!只有当他的弟弟（ 28岁然后）去注册的楼经理告诉他的年龄限制！ we had to argue with the manager for SO LONG before they “let” my friend convert his membership into a shorter-period contract and contra the extra cash over to his brother's account.我们不得不说的经理这么长时间才“让”我的朋友他的成员转换成一个短期合同和康特拉期间的额外现金交给他哥哥的帐户。 so essentially, their general manager lied directly to our faces and wouldnt live up to his word, and then got another member just like that.所以基本上，他们的总经理直接向我们撒谎脸和wouldnt辜负他的话，然后得到的另一名成员就这样。 horrible!!!可怕！ but that wasnt the end of it.但wasn't结束它。
Problem 2: sam promised the swimming pool, the main reason i joined, would be open in june.问题2 ：山姆答应游泳池，主要原因我加入，将在6月开放。 it didnt open till september.它didn't开到9月。 3 months' wasted membership. 3个月的浪费成员。 i took to calling ahead EVERY SINGLE TIME i went to the gym to check if it was open yet.我呼吁每一个未来，我去了健身房，以检查是否有人尚未开放。 always the same answer “we're still having some problems with the pool…” from the morons at the desk, even though their giant billboard was advertising the pool as the biggest, best etc. fine.总是相同的回答： “我们仍然有一些问题，游泳池... ”从低能在服务台，即使他们的巨型广告牌被游泳池的最大，最好等罚款。 one day i call up, they tell me it's fine, i pack my bags for just the pool and bring a guest along.有一天，我打电话，他们告诉我，这是好的，我包装袋的只是我的游泳池和使客户一起。 get to the counter, there's a sign there saying the pool has been closed for the last 3 days, and is also closed today.去柜台，有一个标志有说游泳池已经关闭的最后3天，也是今日停课。 i am so pissed off because i have paid for parking, slathered sunscreen all over myself and NOT BROUGHT MY TRAINERS FOR ANY KIND OF GYM WORKOUT so it was a completely wasted trip.我很生气，因为我已经支付停车， slathered防晒霜都没有把自己和我的导师任何种类的健身锻炼，使这是一个完全浪费之旅。 after arguing with the management about this for the longest time, ie the 3 month pool opening delay, they offer me one months' free membership.争吵后的管理这个时间最久，即三个月游泳池开放拖延，他们给我一个月的免费会员资格。 hah!啊！
Problem 3: bad upkeep问题3 ：坏保养
besides the things like (a) paying for parking (b) no towels and (c) really really imcompetent staff, the ONE AND ONLY REASON I JOINED TRUE FITNESS is really badly maintained.除了像（一）支付停车（ b ）任何毛巾和（ c ）真的很imcompetent工作人员，唯一的原因，我加入的适用性是真真正保养不善。 when i come out of the pool, i feel really, really grimy/slimy.当我走出泳池，我感觉真的，真的肮脏/泥泞。 yesterday the showers by the pool were not working but nothing was being done about it.昨日的阵雨的泳池没有工作，但什么也没有做的。 the pool speakers worked for a short while and now there's no music in the pool anymore.游泳池工作的发言很短，而现在没有音乐在游泳池了。 the other day there was a strange wire leading out of one… that just trailed out of the pool.有一天有一个奇怪的电线领先了一个... ，仅仅落后了游泳池。
but the worst part is, the lockerooms/bathrooms attached to the spa and pool have NO HAIRDRYERS, NO COTTON BUDS, ANYTHING.但最困难的部分是， lockerooms /浴室附在温泉和泳池没有吹风机，无棉芽，任何东西。 AND THEY SMELL REALLY, REALLY BAD.他们嗅觉真的，真的非常糟糕。 my friend, who was visiting from the UK almost gagged when she tried to use the bathroom, it was that awful.我的朋友，谁是远道而来的英国几乎封口当她试图利用浴室，这是可怕的。 it's a very bad septic-tank type smell.这是一个非常糟糕的化粪池反坦克型气味。 and i'm paying RM200+ a month for this???我支付200令吉+一个月呢？ ？ ？ absolutely ridiculous.绝对荒谬的。 as for the no towel thing, even next to a POOL???至于没有毛巾的事情，即使旁边的一组！ how crappy is THAT???如何糟糕的是， ？ ？ ？ it's a true ripoff if you ask me…这是一个真正的ripoff如果你问我...
DO NOT.没有。 DO NOT!!!!切忌！ JOIN THIS GYM!!!加入此健身！
ling // 玲 / / May 30, 2008 at 10:40 AM 08年5月30号在上午10点 40 分
I thought I'd mention one more thing – True Fitness requries you to go to their gym in person 60 days before your contract expires to confirm termination of your contract, even though when they take your first payment, it is for the 1st and last month of your contract.我想提一件事-真正的健身requries你去健身房的人，他们的前60天的合同期满，以确认您终止合同，即使当他们考虑您的第一笔付款，这是对第一和最后一个月的合同。
So when I called to terminate my contract 50 days in advance, they said I had overpaid and they would not refund the payment to me but would give me one more month free.因此，当我打电话给我的合同终止50天之前，他们说我已经过高，他们将不会退还给我，但支付给我一个月免费。 Nobody has mentioned this 60 day clause to me before until I called to terminate.没有人提到这60天的条款之前向我，直到我呼吁终止。 Someone called earlier, to tell me it was going to expire, and he asked if I wanted to extend, but NEVER MENTIONED THIS!!!早些时候，有人呼吁，要告诉我这是将到期，他问我是否要延长，但从来没有提到这一点！
Original expiry date = June 2008原件失效日期= 2008年6月
Extension because I yelled at them = July 2008延期是因为我骂他们= 2008年7月
Extension because they took the payment on May 15th already = August 2008延期，因为他们在付款， 5月15日已经= 2008年8月
Sigh, I really want to be free of this gym.叹息，我真的想这是免费的健身房。 I really hope more people read about this and think twice before this happens to them too!我真的希望更多的人了解这一点，并三思而后这种情况给他们呢！
coolcrave // coolcrave / / Jun 26, 2008 at 3:15 PM 2008年6月26日下午3时15分
Hi guys i would be interested to join FF soon.嗨，大家好，我将兴趣加入法郎很快。 I am getting the idea of the packages there offer there by the review and the comments left below.我收到的想法软件包提供有审查和左侧的评论如下。 I am curious to know if there might be a package offered for lesser than 3 years.我很想知道是否有可能提供一揽子小于3年。 A one year contract would be absolutely great.为期1年的合同将是绝对伟大。 Please forgive my ignorance.请原谅我的无知。 thank you guys感谢你们
Chan Lee Meng 陈李猛 // / / Jul 20, 2008 at 10:46 PM 08年7月20号在下午10点46分
Thanks Mun, et al.由于门，等。 for the useful info.提供了有用的信息。
Briefly contemplated joining this place.简要设想加入这个地方。 Went with a friend to scope them out.跟朋友范围出来。 These were the deal-breakers for me:这是处理断路器对我来说：
1. 1 。 Music was too loud for me.音乐声音太大了。 Almost felt like a nightclub.几乎感觉就像一家夜总会。
2. 2 。 There's a DJ and a DJ booth.有一个的DJ和DJ台。 I suppose that explains the loud music.我猜想，解释了嘈杂的音乐。 Nothing agains DJs, but I know they don't work for free.我并不反对的DJ ，但我知道他们不工作的自由。 This is an extravagance, IMHO, and at the end of the day, it the members who pay for this.这是一种奢侈， IMHO ，在一天结束的时候，它的成员谁付钱。 That also means less money is spend on equipment, maintenence, etc.这也意味着更少的钱是花在设备，维修等
3. 3 。 No towels.没有毛巾。 Was quite surprised by this, considering the rates.很惊讶这一点，考虑到利率。
4. 4 。 Sales people were very pushy.销售人员是非常富有进取心。 This is probably the case in most chain gyms.这可能是大多数连锁健身房。 They also want you to “add on” personal training.他们还希望你的“添加的”个人培训。
5. 5 。 “Free” yoga, aerobics, pilates etc. Quite pointless for me because I'm mainly interested in weights and machines. “免费”瑜珈，健美操，普拉提等不少无谓我，因为我主要感兴趣的重量和机器。 Didn't feel like paying for stuff I don't use.不想付出的东西我不使用。
So, my friend joined, but I didn't.所以，我的朋友加入，但我没有。 She drove a hard bargain though; she knocked them down to RM130/month (2 years, no joining fee).她将很难讨价还价虽然她撞倒他们到RM130/month （ 2年，没有入会费） 。 So if you want to join, don't back down and don't pay the list price!所以，如果你想加入，不后退，不支付的价格！ There's always room to bargain.总有讨价还价的余地。 Also, you'll have more leverage towards the end of the month because the sales people are trying to meet their quotas.此外，您有更多的杠杆作用实现本月底，因为销售人员正在努力满足他们的配额。
Cedrc // Cedrc / / Jul 21, 2008 at 12:03 AM 2008年7月21日在上午12时03分
TRUE FITNESS CLOSING IN SINGAPORE>>>ANY NEWS ARE THEY GONNA RELOCATE ..真适收于新加坡“ ” “的消息，它们要去搬迁.. I am suprised that when the closure notice is out..the sales consultant are still doing their round and asking ppl to sign up…..我很惊讶，当关闭通知了..销售顾问仍尽其轮，并要求私人飞行员执照注册... ..
I've heard numerous complaints circulatin the internet about TF…more than other fitness centre….probably the other knows how to cover it well….我听说过许多投诉circulatin互联网关于金融...超过其他健身中心... 。也许是其他知道如何覆盖好... 。
Is TF Really that bad in terms of customer service?是真的那么坏因子方面的客户服务？
Jessie // 杰西 / / Aug 21, 2008 at 9:38 AM 2008年8月21日在上午09时38分
True Spa is not being trained to be professional.真正的温泉疗养没有得到训练，以专业。 They fraud customer credit card and simply charged customer card as they like.他们欺诈客户的信用卡，只需收取客户的信用卡，他们喜欢。 I signed up for installment plan package and TS charged me for the one time payment.我注册了分期付款封装和TS收取我的一次性付款。 Now the TS consultant (Mohan) and the operation manager (April) are avoiding my calls and pushing all the responsibility to myself and the bank side.现在的Ts顾问（汉）和运营经理（ 4月）是避免我的呼吁和推动所有的责任和对自己的银行一方。
I have lodge a fraud case to the citibank card center and in order for them to further investigate, we need teh EPP form and the agreement which I have signed.我已经提出欺诈案的花旗银行信用卡中心，以使它们能够进一步调查，我们需要的资源增值计划的形式和我的协议已经签署。 But TS is not helpful at all, I called TS form mronign till 10pm, all the receptionist told me that Mohan and April are engaged on the other line whole day long.但指标是无益的所有，我要求的Ts形式mronign到晚上10时，所有的接待员告诉我，汉和4月进行的其他线整天。 What kind of service is this?什么样的服务呢？ I lfet thousand of message but no one ever return my call.余lfet信息一千但没有人回我的电话。
I suggest you to change ur company TrueSpa to TrueCheat.我建议你改变我们的公司TrueSpa以TrueCheat 。 This is your main business anyway!这是您的主要业务反正！ I am very disappointing with all the treatment that I got from TS.我很失望所有的治疗，我从指标。
Can someone pls look into this seriously?可有人请认真研究这个？
Jessie // 杰西 / / Aug 21, 2008 at 9:55 AM 2008年8月21日在上午09时55分
Can I have any top management contact or email?我可以拥有任何高级管理人员联系或发电子邮件？ As I find it useless to talk to all the staff in TS PJ branch, they are just not professional at all.当我找到它无用谈的所有工作人员的Ts PJ分行，他们只是没有专业的。 I am wasting my time talking to them.我浪费我的时间讨论它们。
Victim // 受害者 / / Aug 21, 2008 at 10:10 AM 2008年8月21日在上午10时10分
I have a serious issue to address here…我有一个严重的问题，以解决这里...
I visited TrueSpa in PJ with 2 friends last month, coz we have the free vouchers to try out their services.我访问TrueSpa在PJ 2朋友上个月，怎么我们有免费的凭单尝试他们的服务。 tried the back massage and wasn't bad at tall.审判的背部按摩，而不是坏在Tall 。 after the massage session, as expected, the sales people will come over to promote their packages and ask us to join member.按摩会议后，一如市场预期，销售人将过来，以促进他们的软件包，并要求我们加入会员。
after detailed discussion, 3 of us agreed to join member of TrueSpa using 1 single member account.经详细讨论后， 3我们同意加入会员的TrueSpa使用1单一会员帐户。 We will share the membership fees and share the payment equally.我们将分享会员费和共享同样的付款。 I am the one who swiped my credit card using the 12 months free interest payment.我是谁刷我的信用卡使用的12个月内免费利息。 my other 2 friends can't make the payment on the spot due to credit card reached their limit.我的其他2个朋友无法支付在现场由于信用卡达到极限。 so my two friends filled in the monthly payment form for offline processing on later days.因此，我的两个朋友填补每月付款形式为脱机处理后天。
after a few days, when 1 of my friend gave TrueSpa the credit card details for monthly payment, TrueSpa charged my friend's credit card for a 1 time payment!几天后，当我的朋友1了TrueSpa信用卡细节每月付款， TrueSpa指控我的朋友的信用卡为1次付款！ we intend to use monthly payment scheme but TrueSpa charged my friend 1 time payment.我们打算利用每月付款计划，但我的朋友TrueSpa收取1次付款。 not a small amount though.一个不小的数额了。 so my friend doesn't want it and asked TrueSpa to change to monthly payment.所以我的朋友不希望它和要求TrueSpa变更为每月付款。 according to the bank, it can be done, just need approval from the TrueSpa.根据世界银行，这是可以做到的，只是需要批准TrueSpa 。 but when my friend called TrueSpa to ask them to approve, TrueSpa said the issue is between the bank and the owner of the credit card.但是，当我的朋友称为TrueSpa ，请他们批准， TrueSpa说，问题是世界银行与所有者的信用卡。 what the heck???什么赫克？ ？ ？ then TrueSpa said if want to convert, my friend need to go TrueSpa and swipe the credit card AGAIN and they will convert to monthly payment.然后TrueSpa说，如果要转换，我的朋友需要去TrueSpa和刷卡的信用卡，他们将再次转换为按月支付。 what's the deal with this?有什么处理？
who's correct and who's telling lie here?谁是正确的，谁告诉躺在这里？ another of my friend not yet made the payment coz we want to settle this convert credit card payment first.另外我的朋友尚未付款，我们要怎么解决这个转换信用卡付款第一。 i lost trust on TrueSpa already…我失去了信任TrueSpa已经...
thanks谢谢
Victim // 受害者 / / Aug 21, 2008 at 10:38 AM 2008年8月21日在上午10时38分
We need to alert the public about all the tactic that TrueSpa use to cheat their customer.我们需要提醒市民的所有战术的TrueSpa使用欺骗其客户。 Dun ever give them your credit card, once you give them your credit card info, means you are putting urself into a deep s***.敦以往任何时候都给予他们您的信用卡，一旦你给他们您的信用卡信息，意味着你正在urself陷入深刻的县***.
Come on….read this.来吧... 。阅读。 Think twice before you step into this gym center :前请三思一步进入这个健身中心：
http://www.consumer.com.my/message/index.php?query=true+fitness&amount=0&blogid=1 http://www.consumer.com.my/message/index.php?query=true +健身金额= 0 ＆ blogid = 1
YPei // YPei / / Sep 17, 2008 at 5:18 PM 9月17日， 2008年在下午5点18分
Thanks Victim for sharing your views… I was being offered a FREE spa at the this TSpa so guess nothing comes in FREE…better luck next time由于受害者分享您的意见...我是可免费温泉在此替哌这样猜测，没有一样是自由...下一次更好的运气
yeeping // yeeping / / Sep 30, 2008 at 9:47 AM 9月30日， 2008年在上午09点47分
TRUESPA & TRUEFITNESS are bigtime CHEATS…. TRUESPA ＆ TRUEFITNESS是bigtime作弊... 。 service sucks badly, plus they fraud Credit cards….服务吸收不好，再加上他们信用卡欺诈... 。 please be carefull, dont listen to those sales ppls sweet talking….请carefull ，不要听那些销售ppls口才... 。 its ALL empty promises全空头支票
pl // 特等 / / Oct 6, 2008 at 4:58 PM 2008年10月6号在下午4时58分
i join the gym on August 2008…they charge me RM215 per month and RM50 processing fee…and i come from johor…they promise that if i no longer stay in kl…i can terminate my membership…and now…i'm leaving kl to johor…but they say if i want to terminate my membership…i do need some official letter to prove…我同健身... 2008年8月，他们负责我RM215每月50令吉处理费...和我来自柔佛...他们许诺，如果我不再留在吉隆坡...我可以终止我的会员资格，现在... ...我将离开吉隆坡到柔佛...但是他们说如果我想终止我的会员资格...我需要一些正式信函，证明...
nothing in name // 任何名称 / / Oct 13, 2008 at 4:56 AM 2008年10月13号在上午04时56分
the operation manager, APRIL is a BLOODY BITCH!运作经理， 4月是一场血腥婊子！ she does not fit to be the operation manager of true spa..她不适合的运作经理真正的温泉疗养.. instead, she could have been a waste cooper or garbage collector!相反，她可能是一种浪费库珀或垃圾收集！ she is a good pretender towards her boss, but towards her sales staffs and clients, she gives her SHITTY FACE, and HER BITCHY and WITHCY behaviour.她是一个很好的伪装对她的老板，但对她的销售人员和客户，她给她SHITTY的脸，和她的BITCHY和WITHCY行为。 true spa is going down to the drain with this bitch around there with you guyz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!真正的温泉疗养正在下降的流失这个婊子周围有与你guyz !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
get rid of her 100%!摆脱她的100 ％ ！
what is ganesan doing???什么是ganesan干什么？ ？ ？ sleeping?睡觉？
what's the purpose of him coming down every week to check on true spa?的目的是什么他下楼每周检查真正的温泉疗养？
ganesan! ganesan ！ a message to you too!一条消息给你呢！ please wake up!请醒来！ get rid of that bitch!摆脱这婊子！
True Fitness Hater // 真正的健身厌恶 / / Oct 15, 2008 at 1:52 AM 2008年10月15号在上午01点52
True fitness, as I personally believed, was always a bullshit gym.真正的健身，我个人认为，一直是布尔什特健身房。 Their staff… just 3 words.他们的工作人员...只有3字。 Entirely Fucked Up.完全性交涨。
Hate TF // 仇恨金融 / / Oct 28, 2008 at 2:50 PM 2008年10月28日在下午二点五十
Thanks for sharing all the info with us.感谢所有的信息共享与我们联系。 My friend has faced the same problem as well.我的朋友已经面临着同样的问题。 She got cheated by all the bloody sucking sales rep from True Fitness.她欺骗了所有的血腥吸吮销售代表从真健身。 I am now awaiting them to close down!我现在等待他们关闭！
MY friend already lodge this case to consumer tribunal.我的朋友已经提出这种情况下，消费者法庭。
Pls bear in mind, nothing comes in free.请记住，没有一样是自由。 Dun let TrueFitness/Spa cheat you.敦让TrueFitness温泉/欺骗你。
Foxielady // Foxielady / / Nov 6, 2008 at 12:37 AM 2008年11月6日在上午12时37分
Dear All True Fitness member,亲爱的一切真正健身的会员，
There are theft in the shower room!!有盗窃的淋浴房！ Someone took my toiletries bag when I am showering.有人拿走了我的化妆品袋当我洗澡。 Soo cheapskate!!洙小气鬼！ I hang it outside my shower cubicle and when i finish my shower it is gone!!余挂在我淋浴间，当我结束我的淋浴它不见了！ ！
TRUE FITNESS not safe!!!真实的适用性并不安全！
Please take note.请注意。 Luckily my valueables is not inside.幸运的是我没有valueables内。 Just a few empty shampoo bottles and a watch.只有几个空香波瓶和一只手表。
Guess this won't happen in other fitness centre.猜猜这不会发生在其他健身中心。
lim // 林 / / Nov 9, 2008 at 6:59 AM 2008年11月9号在上午06时59分
true fitness is so terrible!真正的适应性是非常可怕的！
from the payment to the services.从付款的服务。
ESPECIALLY the service and the way the run the place.特别是服务的方式运行的地方。
weeks back i needed to freeze my account to go abroad ,周回我需要我的帐户冻结到国外，
and they did not!他们没有！
i did everything they wanted or needed which was phtostating passports,airline tickets,writing letter to them .我做的一切都是他们想要或需要的是phtostating护照，机票，写一封信给他们。
actually i don't see why i have to go thru all this extra trouble just to freeze a damn account for two months,实际上我不明白为什么我要通过这一切趁手只是冻结不在乎帐户两个月，
i mean ,afterall, it is MY ACCOUNT and MY MONEY.我的意思是，毕竟，这是我的帐号和我的钱。
so if its procedure that they REALLY have to abide to(which i really don't see why they need to take a look at my passport) then alright.所以，如果它的程序，他们真的都必须遵守，以（我真的不明白为什么他们需要考虑一下我的护照） ，那么好吧。
BUT EVEN ALL THE TROUBLE AND WAITING, their manager and workers put my papers aside and LEAVE MY ACCOUNT RUNNING .What are they doing?????但是，即使所有的麻烦和等待，他们的经理和工人把我的文件放在一边，离开我的帐户正常运作。他们现时做些什么????? eating doughnuts and not doing their job????????吃甜甜圈，而不是完成了自己的工作????????
i only found out that when i called the gym to confirm my freezing of account when i was at the airport.我只找到了，当我打电话到我的健身房，以确认冻结帐户时，我在机场。
and now it is STILL RUNNING,so I scolded them and they give me lousy reasons that i did not send an email.and i'll have to scan and photostat my passport for them to see to prove i did went overseas.现在它仍然在运行，所以我骂他们，他们给我糟糕的原因，我没有发送email.and我要扫描和影印我的护照对他们看到，证明我没有出国。
REMIND YOU TRUE FITNESS ,it is MY ACCOUNT even if i did lie,or even if it's not overseas,it could be death or sickness or just a time out.I the OWNER OF MY OWN ACCOUNT WHICH I PAID EVERY PENNY FOR is entitled to freeze my own account for any reason or NO REASON at all.TRUE FITNESS is really ushering customers out their door.提醒您真实的适用性，但我的帐户，即使我没有说谎，或者即使不是在海外，也可能是死亡或生病或只是一个时间out.I所有者我自己的帐户，我付的是每一分钱都有权冻结自己的帐户以任何理由或没有理由all.TRUE适用性客户真正迎来了自己的大门。
IT IS THE MOST TERRIBLE GYM I'VE BEEN TO.这是最可怕的健身房我去过。 comapred to gym's like celebrity is small but IS FRIENDLY,CONVENIENT,and priority is given to CUSTOMER CARE ,NOT JUST THE DAMN SALES!by which if course happens in true fitness because they just want you to signup and after that it's SOLO for you. comapred到健身房像名人虽小，但友好，方便，优先考虑客户服务，而不只是该死的销售！其中当然，如果发生在真实健身，因为他们只是想和你的申请后，它独奏你。 workers there are terrible they act like they're working in LV boutique.有可怕的工人，他们的行为，他们正在努力低压精品。
they act bossier than the customers,they should know their position there,for my watch could buy two years of their work there.This is because of their lousy training.他们的行为堂比顾客，他们应该知道他们的立场有，我看可以购买两年的工作there.This是因为他们糟糕的培训。
IF I COULD I WANT A REFUND FOR IT WAS THE DUMBEST DECISION TO EVER BE A MEMBER IN TRUE FITNESS JAYA 33.如果我能我要退还给它可说愚蠢的决定，恒是会员在真正的适用性再也33 。
I have adviced all my friends ,workers,family never to join .Do pass this to ppl that are ever going to join to reconsider.我已经通知我的所有朋友，工人，家人从来不参加。通过这种脂肪酶是以往任何时候都将加入重新考虑。
IF possible i would like an answer from them to tell me why are they doing a lousy lousy job!如果可能，我想从他们的答案告诉我，为什么他们做了糟糕的糟糕的工作！
lim // 林 / / Nov 9, 2008 at 7:02 AM 2008年11月9号在上午07点02分
AND TRUE FITNESS NEEDS TO BE READING THIS ALONG WITH ALL THE COMMENTS ABOVE.just one more negligence and people are already gladly waiting to SUE YOU!和真正的适用性需要阅读此连同所有评论ABOVE.just一个疏忽和人民已经欣然等待告你！
wong // 黄 / / Nov 12, 2008 at 1:13 PM 2008年11月12号在下午1点13分
why all the negative things about TF, are all of you from FF wanted to destroy TF?为什么所有的负面东西因子，是大家从法郎要摧毁因子？
Come on!来吧！ let's be fair.我们是公平的。 Nothing is perfect.什么是完美的。
I joined TF Taipan since Sep 08, has been using Gym & 200 hours of Yoga, i am so happy that i joined and i should have joined much earlier.我加入了金融大班9月08以来，一直使用健身房及200小时的瑜伽，我很高兴，我加入了，我应该加入更早。 The staff there are friendly, the Yogi are friendly and professional, what else can i expect more ?工作人员有友好，瑜珈是友好和专业，我还可以期待更多的？
i converted to life member last month, if i am not satisfied, do you thing i will pay extra few thousands to convert to Life member ??字母i转换为终身会员上个月，如果我不满意，你我会加倍几千转换为终身会员？ ？
Think again.你就大错特错了。
S // 的S / / Nov 12, 2008 at 1:44 PM 2008年11月12号在下午1点44分
Well I agree with Wong, nothing is perfect but at the moment TF in Taipan is quite alrite, not that crowded and machine still well maintain…好吧，我同意黄，没有什么是完美的，但目前金融在相当alrite大班，而不是拥挤和机器仍维持...
The owner of TF is a Singaporean so he/she should be quite kiasu to want to maintain the quality of the machines not like CF …the machine all berkarat :P转移因子的主人是一个新加坡人，使他/她应该相当kiasu要保持高质量的机器不喜欢参看...机器所有berkarat ：对
sux // sux的 / / Nov 14, 2008 at 8:56 PM 2008年11月14号在下午8时56分
i wonder are one of the staff in TF?我不知道是工作人员在金融？ I am suprised that got ppl thinking this way.我很惊讶的是，有脂肪酶思考这样。 What i know is, TF is worse than a blood sucker.我所知道的是，金融不如血吸盘。 They are famous of bad management, lousy service and cheating customer.他们是著名的管理不善，糟糕的服务和欺骗客户。
but TF is good bcos they have u to support them…lol但金融是好的bcos他们ü支持他们...大声笑
TRUE spa's angry customer // 真正的温泉疗养的愤怒的客户 / / Apr 12, 2009 at 3:10 PM 2009年4月12号在下午3点10分
I have joined True Spa since last year May.我已经加入了真正的温泉疗养自去年5月 I have been paying RM300 per month and I am supposed to be entitled to services such as massage, facial etc in my package.我一直每月支付RM300 ，我理应享有的服务，如按摩，面部等在我的包。 However I ended up having to pay other massage centres or visit other places for my massage, facial, manicure to be done, and the IRONY is NOT in True Spa!不过，我最后不得不支付其他按摩中心或访问其他地方为我按摩，脸部按摩，修指甲要做的工作，并具有讽刺意味的不是真正的温泉疗养！ Does that make sense?这是否有道理？ I pay this spa RM300 per month but ended up paying extra and forced to go to other places to get my services.我要这个温泉RM300每月但最终被迫付出额外的和去其他地方让我的服务。 Why?为什么？ Because it is IMPOSSIBLE to get an appointment !!!!因为它是不可能得到任命！ I questioned their customer service department as to why all their slots are always full, leaving only those odd honours free, which, a normal working client like me is not able to attend.本人质疑他们的客户服务部门，为什么他们所有的插槽都充分，只留下这些奇数荣誉自由，其中，正常工作的客户和我一样是未能出席会议。 Their answer (about 1 year ago ) is that they just started their business and thus most of the slots are reserved for “free trial” session to attract potential customer.他们的回答（约1年以前）是，他们刚刚开始他们的业务，因此大部分的插槽是预留作“免费试用”会议，以吸引潜在客户。 We as PAYING CUSTOMER cannot help feeling that we are being CHEATED and NEGLECTED.我们支付客户不能帮助的感觉，我们受到了欺骗和被忽视的。 However… 1 year later..然而... 1年后.. the same thing is still going on ..同样的事情仍在进行中.. TRUE Spa is just interested to do sales but not providing services to paying customer who is ENTITLED to good services from them.真正的温泉疗养只是兴趣做销售，但不提供服务的付费客户谁有权从这些良好的服务。 Once you become a member, you will never get your appointment unless you can plan your appointment 2 months ahead, which is RIDICULOUS and UNACEPPTABLE.一旦你成为会员，你将永远不会让您的任命，除非你可以计划预约2个月前，这是荒谬的，而且UNACEPPTABLE 。
I strongly agreed with Lim saying that “IF I COULD, I WANT A REFUND, FOR IT WAS THE DUMBEST DECISION EVERTO BE A MEMBER OF TRUE SPA JAYA 33”.我强烈同意林说， “如果我能，我想退款，因为这是愚蠢的决定EVERTO的一员，真正的温泉疗养讯33 ” 。
I feel that I'ma stupid consumer and ended up becoming an angry consumer.我觉得我是一个愚蠢的消费者最终成为一个愤怒的消费者。
True Spa is not interested to solve our problems or attends to our complaints and neither do we get any feedbacks from their management nor from the front desk staff.真正的温泉疗养不感兴趣解决我们的问题或参加我们的投诉和我们也没有得到任何反馈，也没有从他们的管理从前台的工作人员。 They will just ignore you.他们将刚刚忽视你。 I am left with no other option but to “speak up” !我没有其他选择，只有“说话” ！ I am resolved to approach their “potential customer” and start sharing my personal shocking and horrifying experiences with them and directing them to browse through reviews posted by other angry and unsatisfied customers in internet before they make the same mistake in signing up the membership program.我决心对待它们的“潜在顾客” ，并开始分享我个人的令人震惊和可怕的经验，与他们同在，指导他们浏览评语发布的其他愤怒和不满的顾客在互联网之前就再犯同样的错误在签约的会员计划。 Of course, the decision ultimately is in their hands, but I cannot stand idly and do NOTHING while others are being duped.当然，最终的决定是在他们手中，但我不能袖手旁观，什么也不做，而其他被欺骗。
If you are an angry or an unsatisfied customer like me, please join me.如果您是一个愤怒的或不满意的客户喜欢我，请和我一起。 Let our voices make a change, it is our DUTY and our RIGHTS as customers to send our message across to this SINGAPORE-based company make them aware that Malaysian customers deserved equally the same respect and treatment …让我们的声音做出改变，这是我们的责任和权利，我们的客户向我们的信息传递给这个总部设在新加坡的公司使他们了解，马来西亚的客户同样值得同样的尊重和待遇...
su3nn // su3nn / / Apr 21, 2009 at 11:30 AM 2009年4月21日上午 11 时30分
i have TrueFitness Gym membership to sell/transfer, due to i have to move.我TrueFitness体育馆成员出售/转让，因为我已经提出动议。 I will offer good price at 110 pm..我将提供良好的价格在110至.. for 3 yrs.为3岁。 free joining/processing fees..免费加入/加工费.. Its platinum membership..其铂成员.. u can go to any branch and use all the facilities inc. ü可以到任何一间分行和使用的所有设施公司。 swimming pool (jaya33) Its a bargain!游泳池（ jaya33 ）及其便宜！ Free bag, towel and water bottle.免费袋，毛巾和水樽。 Do contact me if ur interested at不要与我联系，如果我们的兴趣 su3nn@yahoo.com su3nn@yahoo.com . 。 Thanks!谢谢！
ann // 人工神经网络 / / May 19, 2009 at 11:38 AM 2009年5月19号在上午11时38分
I've visited TF at Hartamas early of May 2009.我走访了金融在Hartamas早期的2009年5月。 I wonder how the mgt came up with the pricing of products.我不知道如何管理提出了定价的产品。 The 1st time I went, the sales ppl Vijay had offered me the price of RM155/month, plus 3 types of one time fees.第一时间我去，销售脂肪酶维杰辛已为我提供的价格RM155/month ，加上3种类型的一次性费用。 This for one year contract.这一年的合同。 If 2 years, price RM125.如果2年，价格RM125 。 (All the prices will be added with 5% tax). （所有价格将增加5 ％的税） 。 After negotiation, the most that he could do was to reduce half of the 3 fees and said the monthly fee is fixed at RM155.经过谈判，最，他所能做的就是减少一半的费用，并表示3月租费定为RM155 。 He said, even that price was given after considering for 2 ppl.他说，即使该价格是在考虑2脂肪酶。 (I came with my friend). （我与我的朋友） 。 Infact, when I asked about any other things that he could inform us, he said all info had been delivered although he only explained on the single pricing.事实上，当我问及任何其他东西，他可以告诉我们，他说，所有信息已交付但他只解释单一定价。 He didn't even mention other packages, services, payment like, contract.他甚至没有提及其他的软件包，服务，付款一样，合同。 The fact was he would only get idea to say when we raised the matters up.事实是，他将只能得到主意说，当我们提出的问题了。 He said payment is only thru credit card accepted.
A week after I (with friend) went to the TF (Hartamas) again and this time meet with another senior sales ppl, Ikbal. We told him that we'd been there last week and have asked him the best package for 1 year contract. This boy is quite honest and genuine. He explained in detail covers on the packages, pricing, services, contracts. He even explained the terms in the contract and remind us with many things. He said actually when clients understands well on the contract, the company will not face a lot of trouble dealing with many basic and common questions in the future. I love to share with you that for 2 yrs membership, the price was 99.00 (RM103.95 after tax). infact, there's a package of price RM86.90 (if not mistaken). For package 1 year is RM125/month (RM131.25 after tax) plus only pay 1 type of fee RM50. See, there's so much difference with the same package that Vijay had offered me. i think the afore sales ppl really sucked up client, he goes for higher margin. Friends out there, pls share with us if you get a better price. Even he said cash payment is accepted (monthly, pay at counter).