In October 2005, was told that True Fitness would have a branch at Jaya 33 at Section 13, Petaling Jaya. 2005年10月，被告知，真正的健身將有33處，亞在第13節，八打靈再也。 It would be True Fitness third outlet in Malaysia, after這將是真正的健身第三出路在馬來西亞，後 Desa Sri Hartamas 經社部斯里蘭卡Hartamas in June 2005 and 2005年6月 USJ 10 (Taipan) 日本環球影城10 （大班） in June 2006.在2006年6月。 So, again, in June, but in year 2007, True Fitness Jaya 33 finally opened its door.因此，再次，在6月，但在2007年，真正的健身再也終於開設了33門。
Armed with my newly upgraded lifetime membership, decided to drop by at True Fitness at Jaya 33 in June 2007.有了我的新升級的終身會員，決定放棄了在真正的健身再也33在2007年6月。 Therefore, bear in mind that this review was prepared in June 2007 and some of the things may have changed since then.因此， 考慮到這次審查準備在2007年6月的一些事情 ， 可能已經改變了。
This new gym is located at a strategic location for office workers in the vicinity of Section 13 and 14 Petaling Jaya.這一新體育館位於戰略位置，辦公室工作人員在附近的第13和第14八打靈再也。 It is directly opposite to Public Bank, Hong Leong Bank and Maybank in Section 14.它直接對面的大眾銀行，豐隆銀行和馬來亞銀行在第14款。 If you come from Bulatan Rothman, it will be on your side left.如果您來自Bulatan羅思曼，這將是對你的身邊離開。 This white building is huge and you will not miss it.這是巨大的白色建築物，你不會錯過它。
The entrance of the gym is at the ground floor with new Coffee Bean located directly opposite of it.入口處的健身房是地下新咖啡豆直接位於對面的。 Supposedly, one just has to register at the ground floor and use the internal staircase to go to first floor.按說，一個剛剛已經登記在地下，並使用內部樓梯到一樓。 However, because the renovation is still ongoing (70% completed as of 24 June 2007), after scanning the card at ground floor, member has to take an access card and take a lift (or escalator) to work out at the first floor.然而，由於目前仍在進行整修（ 70 ％完成了2007年6月24日） ，在掃描卡地下，會員已採取出入卡，並採取升降機（或電梯）工作在一樓。
So, what do we have at the ground floor in addition to the reception area mentioned earlier?因此，我們有什麼地下除了接待區前面提到？
It has the typical disco look alike sales area.它具有典型的迪斯科看都銷售面積。 I saw True Bliss there.我看到了真正的幸福存在。 True Bliss, which is True Fitness merchandise arm, sells clothes, supplements, and drinks, is here too.真正的幸福，這是真正的健身商品手臂，出售衣服，補品，飲料，在這裡也。 I found kid nursery there at one corner.我發現孩子在幼兒園有一個角落。
If you walk straight from the ground floor entrance, you will see rows of treadmills with plasma televisions hanging on the floor.如果你步行直接從地下入口處，你會看到一排排跑步機與等離子電視掛在地板上。 I found it bit dark over here.我發現它有點黑暗這裡。
I went to first floor to look for the changing room.我去一樓找更衣室。 Lockers, toilet, bathrooms, steam room and sauna are all there.儲物櫃，衛生間，浴室，蒸汽房和桑拿都存在。 It is bigger than the one at Sri Hartamas and about the same size like the one in Taipan.這是比一個在斯里蘭卡Hartamas和同樣大小像一個大班。
As expected, towel service is not provided.正如所料，毛巾不提供服務。 So does pad lock.因此，不墊鎖。 So, remember to bring yours.所以，記得把你的。 As mentioned many times, without towel service, instead of striving to be the best, True Fitness has actually taken a step backward.由於多次提到，沒有毛巾的服務，而不是努力成為最好的，真正的健身實際上已經採取了倒退。 What a pity.真可惜。
After putting my stuff into the locker, I went straight to the free weight area.經過我的東西進入更衣室，我徑直向自由重量區。 More benches here than Hartamas and Taipan branch.更多長椅比Hartamas和大班處。 It also has the complete set of handles.它還有一套完整的處理。
Apart from having more weights and handles, it actually raised the floor for the dumbbells area.除了有更多的重量和處理，它實際上提出了發言啞鈴地區。 That spot is covered with special type of carpet which absorbs noise and impact if one drops the dumbbell.這點是覆蓋特殊類型的地毯其中吸收噪音和影響，如果一個下降的啞鈴。
I found the decline bench with adjustable leg area and instantly appreciated it.我發現可調下降板凳腿地區和即時讚賞。 The current one at Taipan branch is fixed permanently.目前的一個大班科是固定的永久性。
If you prefer resistance machines, you may like this place.如果您喜歡抵抗機，您可能會喜歡這個地方。 In terms of the machines arrangement, it is better than the other two outlets.在機器的安排，這是優於其他兩個分店。 It has grouped the machines together according to muscle groups.它分為機器一起根據肌肉群。
As for the cardio machines, as expected, it has treadmill, cross trainers, bikes and Cardio Wave machines.至於心肺機，正如預料的那樣，它跑步，交叉培訓，自行車和心血管波機。 For those who have been spoiled with cardio machines with plasma screens at Taipan branch, too bad, you will not see the similar machines here.對於那些誰慣壞了心肺機與等離子電視在大班科，太糟糕了，你將不會看到類似的機器在這裡。 One row of the machines are facing the busy road (Jalan Semangat), the other row is facing a boring building at the side.一列的機器正面臨著繁忙的公路（路Semangat ） ，其他行正面臨著無聊的建設方面。
I saw three studios, two for the dance classes and one for RPM.我看見三個工作室，兩個班的舞蹈和一個轉速。 The studios are about the same size like those in Taipan branch and definitely bigger than Hartamas one.電影大約相同的大小如在大班科和肯定大於Hartamas 1 。 Less pillars with all of them are at the back of the studio.減支柱與所有這些都在後面的工作室。 Therefore, better layout design for studios here.因此，更好的佈局設計工作室這裡。
The so called Fitness Department is located at first floor too.所謂健身部位於一樓太多。 I saw a row of cubicles here.我看到了一排房間，在這裡。 They are used by the personal trainers to do sales.他們所使用的私人教練做銷售。 The body fat measurement machines are found in some of the cubicles.體脂肪測量儀是在一些房間。 Right beside each machine, the BMI charts are pasted on the wall.每台機器旁邊的體質指數圖表貼在牆上。
Saw a DJ booth too.看到了太多的DJ展位。 The equipments are not there yet and you will not find any disc jockey spinning any tracks.該設備還沒有，你不會找到任何唱片騎師紡紗任何軌道。
Also, True Yoga is not completed yet.此外，真正的瑜珈不是尚未完成。 For those holding passport memberships, unfortunately, we are not allowed to enter True Yoga.對於那些持有護照成員，不幸的是，我們不能進入真正的瑜伽。 Additional charge will be incurred to attend Yoga classes here.額外的費用將產生參加瑜伽班這裡。 Yes, was told that Yoga classes here will be different than other outlets.是的，被告知，瑜伽班此處將不同於其他渠道。 I do not want to speculate, but I will be let down if this is the confirmed policy.我不想猜測，但是我會失望，如果這是證實的政策。 After charging for shoe lockers at Taipan branch, now, Yoga classes too?扣除鞋在大班櫃處，現在，瑜伽班嗎？
I went to fourth floor to take a look at the swimming pool.我去四樓看看泳池。 True Spa will be at the fourth floor too.真正的溫泉療養將在4樓也。 By the way, second and third floor are all car parks.順便說一下，第二和第三層的所有停車場。 Fourth floor, half of the space is meant for car parks too.第四層，一半的空間是指停車場太多。 So, I believe that it is possible to drive all the way up to fourth floor to park you car and then dip into the swimming pool right after you come out from car.所以，我認為是有可能的所有驅動器的方式多達4樓公園你的汽車，然後下降到游泳池後，你走出車。 Ahem. Ahem 。
The pool depth is between 3 to 4.5 feet, I guess.泳池深度為3至四點五英尺，我猜。 It is about 30 meters in length and 3 to 4 meters in width.這是約30米長， 3至4米寬。 Expected it to be much bigger.預計它的規模變得更大。 Also, it is an outdoor pool.此外，它是一個室外游泳池。 So, I doubt that members are allowed to use the pool when it rains.所以，我懷疑，成員可以使用這裡的游泳池當下雨。 However, the view is pretty nice up here.然而，認為是相當不錯了這裡。
True Fitness CEO, Patrick Wee 真正的健身首席執行官帕特里克黃金輝 , is targeting to recruit about 5,000 members for Jaya 33 outlet. ，目標是招募5000名成員，再也33插座。 With about 70,000 sqft built up area at Jaya 33, the 5,000 figure is nothing compare to his goal to have 10,000 members for Taipan branch which has 80,000 sqft built up area.大約有70,000平方英尺建立地區再也33 ， 5000的數字是什麼，他的目標相比，有10 000名成員大班科已建立了80,000平方英尺面積。 Now, look at the figures – 5,000 members for 70,000 sqft of Jaya 33 and 10,000 member for 80,000 sqft for Taipan outlet.現在，看看這些數字- 5000名成員的70,000平方英尺的亞33和10,000名成員， 80,000平方英尺的大班插座。 Yeah, 50% less with only 10,000 sqft difference.是的，低50 ％ ，只有10,000平方英尺差異。 Will be interested to know how he comes out with the numbers.都會有興趣知道，他如何出來的數字。
If you stay or work around PJ area, go there for a week of free trial and let me know what you think.如果您停止或變通PJ地區，去那裡進行為期一周的免費試用，讓我知道您的想法。 Here is the location map of Jaya33 building:以下是位置圖Jaya33建設：
What I Like: 我喜歡：
- The machines are brand new and you do not have to fight for car park space for now.該機器是全新的和你沒有爭取停車場空間現在。
- The gym has high ceiling which is about 14 feet.健身房具有較高的上限大約是14英尺。 So, unlike the previous two outlets which are located in shop lots, this one looks more spacious.因此，與前兩個網點分別設在店口，這看起來更寬敞。 Air ventilation is better too.空氣流通好太多。
Things to watch out: 事情要留意：
- No towel service and additional charge for Yoga classes.沒有毛巾的服務和額外收費的瑜伽班。 Before you sign up, ask about the towel service, Yoga package and contract period.在您申請，要求對毛巾的服務，瑜伽包和合同期限。 Go for each term in the contract carefully.每學期去合同中仔細。 Read two of my articles for more advise:閱讀兩個我的文章更多的提醒： 10 Tips To Choose A Good Gym 10秘訣 ， 選擇好的健身房 and和 Don't Sign Any Gym Contract Before You Read This 沒有簽署任何合同之前健身房你讀這 . 。
- Swimming pool may not be big enough.游泳池可能不是足夠大。 But, it may be subjective, when comes to size, ahem.但是，它可能是主觀的，當談到大小， ahem 。
- As pointed by reader Alan, True Spa is currently only restricted for women as the company is having problems obtaining a license for it to run as a unisex spa.正如格林斯潘指出的讀者， 真正的溫泉療養 ， 目前只限於對婦女 ， 該公司是有問題獲得許可運行它作為一個中性溫泉。
- Was told Jaya33 has about 1,000 car parks.被告知Jaya33有大約1000名停車場。 Until 30 June 2007, the parking fee was RM3 per entry. 6月30日為止2007年，停車費是每令吉入境。 Now, the parking fee:現在，停車費：
- On normal office hours during weekday, it is RM1.50 for the member, but for other office worker, it is RM4.50 per entry.在正常辦公時間在平日，這是RM1.50的會員，但為其他公司職員，這是RM4.50每個條目。
- After 5 PM 6 PM and weekends, the fee is rm1.50 per entry. 下午5點以後週末下午6時，收費是rm1.50每個條目。
- As for the fee, was told it is about average RM160 monthly fee for 3-year contract for home based package.至於收費，被告知這是RM160每月平均費用為3年的合同為基礎的家庭包。 I believe that you can get better deal if you know their sales gimmick. For those who have joined, I will appreciate if you could leave your comment on how much you have paid to join True Fitness at Jaya 33.我相信，您可以得到更好的處理，如果你知道他們的銷售花招。 對於那些誰也加入，我會請你離開你對你有多少支付加入真健身在亞33 。
Updated: Based on the comments left,after negotiation, the package is about RM4,032 for 3-year membership which is average of RM112 per month. 更新：根據左側的評論之後，談判的一攬子是RM4 ， 032 3年的成員是平均每月RM112 。
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Jonz // Jonz / / Jan 13, 2008 at 7:36 PM 08年1月13日在下午7時36分
The passport membership for True Fitness is priced at about RM 112 per month for a 3 year membership.護照成員是真正的健身室售價約為112每月為三年的成員。 The catch is you gotta pay thru either EON Bank, CIMB or Public Bank credit card to get a 24 month installment.漁獲是你得支付或者通過國貿銀行，聯昌國際或大眾銀行的信用卡，獲得24個月分期付款。 Other credit cards like Alliance Bank, HSBC, Citibank will get a 12 month installment which breaks down to about RM 336 per month.其他信用卡一樣聯盟銀行，匯豐銀行，花旗銀行將獲得12個月的分期付款打破下降到約336室每月。
Alan // 艾倫 / / Jan 15, 2008 at 12:07 AM 2008年1月15號在上午12點07分
Don't need to elaborate further on the membership fee this Jonz has done that well in his comment.不需要進一步闡述會員費這Jonz已做到這一點以及他的意見。 Just to add that the passport membership described includes access to True Yoga as well (which, like the Taipan outlet, includes a studio for Hot Yoga classes as well as the standard classes).剛剛添加的護照成員描述包括獲得真正的瑜伽以及（其中，如大班出口，包括演播室熱瑜伽班以及標準班） 。 Also, parking is currently priced at RM1.50 PER HOUR for True Fitness members.另外，停車場，目前售價為RM1.50每小時真健身成員。 After 5 pm, parking is priced at RM1.50 per ENTRY.下午5點以後，停車的價格為RM1.50每個條目。 The RM1.50 per ENTRY rate also applies to weekends and public holidays.每個條目的RM1.50率也適用於週末及公眾假期。
Access to True Spa is currently only available for women as the establishment is having problems obtaining a license for it to run as a unisex spa.獲得真正的溫泉療養，目前僅適用於婦女建立是有問題獲得許可運行它作為一個中性溫泉。 And I agree with Mun that the lack of towel service really lowers the image and credentials of this fitness centre which could really give Fitness First a run for its money otherwise.我同意門，缺乏真正降低毛巾服務的形象和憑據這一健身中心可真正讓健身第一手中分得利潤，否則。 I could do with having to bring my own lock, but the absence of towel service is really quite frustrating.我所能做的了，使我自己的鎖，但沒有毛巾的服務確實很令人沮喪。
Kudos to Mun for yet another superb review on a True Fitness outlet.聲望到屯門又一次出色審查一個真實的健身場地。 I can't wait to see your review for the Pavillion outlet!我迫不及待地想看到您的審查，亭口！
May // 5 / / Apr 2, 2008 at 2:46 PM 2008年4月2日在下午2時46分
Joined True Fitness (TF) Jaya 33 in Oct 07 as my office is located in the same building.加入真健身鐵蛋白（ TF ）再也33 10月7日作為我的辦事處設在同一建築物內。 Was approached by a barage of TF counsellors trying to sell their packages to all the offices located in the same building.接觸的barage的金融顧問試圖出售其軟件包的所有辦事處設在同一建築物內。 Was 1st given the package of RM209 p/m + RM100 (precessing fee, joining fee waived), this is a 2 year contract, home package incl.是第一考慮的一攬子RM209 p /米+林吉特（進費，入會費免除） ，這是一個2年的合同，家庭包含。 of yoga.瑜伽。 After persuading us to bring along a few others who are interested in joining and after all the gimmick-y show of talking to my manager, etc..在勸說我們攜同其他幾個誰有興趣加入，並在所有的噱頭釔查看談論我的經理等。 The rate was brought down to RM149 p/m + RM100 (precessing fee, joining fee waived) but have to pay thru the few affiliated credit cards.這一比率降低到RM149 p /米+林吉特（進費，入會費豁免） ，但必須支付通過幾個附屬信用卡。 Later got to know that a collegue manage to secure a the same package for RM139 p/m.後來認識了一個同事管理，確保同一包RM139 p /米 Bummer!!長號！
ling // 玲 / / May 29, 2008 at 10:00 PM 2008年5月29日在下午 10 點
i joined true fitness in june 2007 and have been plagued with problems since then.我加入了真正的健身於2007年6月，並已困擾的問題，因為當時。
Problem 1: lying staff問題1 ：躺在工作人員
the general manager sam signed me and a friend up.總經理薩姆簽署我和一個朋友了。 i took a 1-year package and am paying a ridiculous RM208.90 per month for it.我在1年的包裝和我付出了可笑RM208.90每月它。
sam suckered my friend into taking the 3 year package for RM4675 by telling him his family members could all join at a 50% discount on the same package.三suckered我的朋友到採取三年包RM4675告訴了他的家庭成員都可以參加在50 ％的折扣優惠相同的包。 what he didnt tell my friend was that “family members” have to be under 25.他告訴我的朋友didn't是， “家庭成員”必須是25歲以下。 considering my friend was 26 at the time and said his OLDER brother and PARENTS wanted to join, and that sam DIDN'T say anything about this clause, we can only conclude he blatantly lied to get my friend to sign on the line.考慮我的朋友是在26日的時間和說，他的哥哥和家長想加入，並沒有說山姆任何關於這一條款，我們只能得出結論，他公然撒謊讓我的朋友簽署線。 it was only when his brother (aged 28 then) went to sign up that the floor manager told him about the age limit!!!只有當他的弟弟（ 28歲然後）去註冊的樓經理告訴他的年齡限制！ we had to argue with the manager for SO LONG before they “let” my friend convert his membership into a shorter-period contract and contra the extra cash over to his brother's account.我們不得不說的經理這麼長時間才“讓”我的朋友他的成員轉換成一個短期合同和康特拉期間的額外現金交給他哥哥的帳戶。 so essentially, their general manager lied directly to our faces and wouldnt live up to his word, and then got another member just like that.所以基本上，他們的總經理直接向我們撒謊臉和wouldnt辜負他的話，然後得到的另一名成員就這樣。 horrible!!!可怕！ but that wasnt the end of it.但wasn't結束它。
Problem 2: sam promised the swimming pool, the main reason i joined, would be open in june.問題2 ：山姆答應游泳池，主要原因我加入，將在6月開放。 it didnt open till september.它didn't開到9月。 3 months' wasted membership. 3個月的浪費成員。 i took to calling ahead EVERY SINGLE TIME i went to the gym to check if it was open yet.我呼籲每一個未來，我去了健身房，以檢查是否有人尚未開放。 always the same answer “we're still having some problems with the pool…” from the morons at the desk, even though their giant billboard was advertising the pool as the biggest, best etc. fine.總是相同的回答： “我們仍然有一些問題，游泳池... ”從低能在服務台，即使他們的巨型廣告牌被游泳池的最大，最好等罰款。 one day i call up, they tell me it's fine, i pack my bags for just the pool and bring a guest along.有一天，我打電話，他們告訴我，這是好的，我包裝袋的只是我的游泳池和使客戶一起。 get to the counter, there's a sign there saying the pool has been closed for the last 3 days, and is also closed today.去櫃檯，有一個標誌有說游泳池已經關閉的最後3天，也是今日停課。 i am so pissed off because i have paid for parking, slathered sunscreen all over myself and NOT BROUGHT MY TRAINERS FOR ANY KIND OF GYM WORKOUT so it was a completely wasted trip.我很生氣，因為我已經支付停車， slathered防曬霜都沒有把自己和我的導師任何種類的健身鍛煉，使這是一個完全浪費之旅。 after arguing with the management about this for the longest time, ie the 3 month pool opening delay, they offer me one months' free membership.爭吵後的管理這個時間最久，即三個月游泳池開放拖延，他們給我一個月的免費會員資格。 hah!啊！
Problem 3: bad upkeep問題3 ：壞保養
besides the things like (a) paying for parking (b) no towels and (c) really really imcompetent staff, the ONE AND ONLY REASON I JOINED TRUE FITNESS is really badly maintained.除了像（一）支付停車（ b ）任何毛巾和（ c ）真的很imcompetent工作人員，唯一的原因，我加入的適用性是真真正保養不善。 when i come out of the pool, i feel really, really grimy/slimy.當我走出泳池，我感覺真的，真的骯髒/泥濘。 yesterday the showers by the pool were not working but nothing was being done about it.昨日的陣雨的泳池沒有工作，但什麼也沒有做的。 the pool speakers worked for a short while and now there's no music in the pool anymore.游泳池工作的發言很短，而現在沒有音樂在游泳池了。 the other day there was a strange wire leading out of one… that just trailed out of the pool.有一天有一個奇怪的電線領先了一個... ，僅僅落後了游泳池。
but the worst part is, the lockerooms/bathrooms attached to the spa and pool have NO HAIRDRYERS, NO COTTON BUDS, ANYTHING.但最困難的部分是， lockerooms /浴室附在溫泉和泳池沒有吹風機，無棉芽，任何東西。 AND THEY SMELL REALLY, REALLY BAD.他們嗅覺真的，真的非常糟糕。 my friend, who was visiting from the UK almost gagged when she tried to use the bathroom, it was that awful.我的朋友，誰是遠道而來的英國幾乎封口當她試圖利用浴室，這是可怕的。 it's a very bad septic-tank type smell.這是一個非常糟糕的化糞池反坦克型氣味。 and i'm paying RM200+ a month for this???我支付200令吉+一個月呢？ ？ ？ absolutely ridiculous.絕對荒謬的。 as for the no towel thing, even next to a POOL???至於沒有毛巾的事情，即使旁邊的一組！ how crappy is THAT???如何糟糕的是， ？ ？ ？ it's a true ripoff if you ask me…這是一個真正的ripoff如果你問我...
DO NOT.沒有。 DO NOT!!!!切忌！ JOIN THIS GYM!!!加入此健身！
ling // 玲 / / May 30, 2008 at 10:40 AM 08年5月30號在上午10點 40 分
I thought I'd mention one more thing – True Fitness requries you to go to their gym in person 60 days before your contract expires to confirm termination of your contract, even though when they take your first payment, it is for the 1st and last month of your contract.我想提一件事-真正的健身requries你去健身房的人，他們的前60天的合同期滿，以確認您終止合同，即使當他們考慮您的第一筆付款，這是對第一和最後一個月的合同。
So when I called to terminate my contract 50 days in advance, they said I had overpaid and they would not refund the payment to me but would give me one more month free.因此，當我打電話給我的合同終止50天之前，他們說我已經過高，他們將不會退還給我，但支付給我一個月免費。 Nobody has mentioned this 60 day clause to me before until I called to terminate.沒有人提到這60天的條款之前向我，直到我呼籲終止。 Someone called earlier, to tell me it was going to expire, and he asked if I wanted to extend, but NEVER MENTIONED THIS!!!早些時候，有人呼籲，要告訴我這是將到期，他問我是否要延長，但從來沒有提到這一點！
Original expiry date = June 2008原件失效日期= 2008年6月
Extension because I yelled at them = July 2008延期是因為我罵他們= 2008年7月
Extension because they took the payment on May 15th already = August 2008延期，因為他們在付款， 5月15日已經= 2008年8月
Sigh, I really want to be free of this gym.嘆息，我真的想這是免費的健身房。 I really hope more people read about this and think twice before this happens to them too!我真的希望更多的人了解這一點，並三思而後這種情況給他們呢！
coolcrave // coolcrave / / Jun 26, 2008 at 3:15 PM 2008年6月26日下午3時15分
Hi guys i would be interested to join FF soon.嗨，大家好，我將興趣加入法郎很快。 I am getting the idea of the packages there offer there by the review and the comments left below.我收到的想法軟件包提供有審查和左側的評論如下。 I am curious to know if there might be a package offered for lesser than 3 years.我很想知道是否有可能提供一攬子小於3年。 A one year contract would be absolutely great.為期1年的合同將是絕對偉大。 Please forgive my ignorance.請原諒我的無知。 thank you guys感謝你們
Chan Lee Meng 陳李猛 // / / Jul 20, 2008 at 10:46 PM 08年7月20號在下午10點46分
Thanks Mun, et al.由於門，等。 for the useful info.提供了有用的信息。
Briefly contemplated joining this place.簡要設想加入這個地方。 Went with a friend to scope them out.跟朋友範圍出來。 These were the deal-breakers for me:這是處理斷路器對我來說：
1. 1 。 Music was too loud for me.音樂聲音太大了。 Almost felt like a nightclub.幾乎感覺就像一家夜總會。
2. 2 。 There's a DJ and a DJ booth.有一個的DJ和DJ台。 I suppose that explains the loud music.我猜想，解釋了嘈雜的音樂。 Nothing agains DJs, but I know they don't work for free.我並不反對的DJ ，但我知道他們不工作的自由。 This is an extravagance, IMHO, and at the end of the day, it the members who pay for this.這是一種奢侈， IMHO ，在一天結束的時候，它的成員誰付錢。 That also means less money is spend on equipment, maintenence, etc.這也意味著更少的錢是花在設備，維修等
3. 3 。 No towels.沒有毛巾。 Was quite surprised by this, considering the rates.很驚訝這一點，考慮到利率。
4. 4 。 Sales people were very pushy.銷售人員是非常富有進取心。 This is probably the case in most chain gyms.這可能是大多數連鎖健身房。 They also want you to “add on” personal training.他們還希望你的“添加的”個人培訓。
5. 5 。 “Free” yoga, aerobics, pilates etc. Quite pointless for me because I'm mainly interested in weights and machines. “免費”瑜珈，健美操，普拉提等不少無謂我，因為我主要感興趣的重量和機器。 Didn't feel like paying for stuff I don't use.不想付出的東西我不使用。
So, my friend joined, but I didn't.所以，我的朋友加入，但我沒有。 She drove a hard bargain though; she knocked them down to RM130/month (2 years, no joining fee).她將很難討價還價雖然她撞倒他們到RM130/month （ 2年，沒有入會費） 。 So if you want to join, don't back down and don't pay the list price!所以，如果你想加入，不後退，不支付的價格！ There's always room to bargain.總有討價還價的餘地。 Also, you'll have more leverage towards the end of the month because the sales people are trying to meet their quotas.此外，您有更多的槓桿作用實現本月底，因為銷售人員正在努力滿足他們的配額。
Cedrc // Cedrc / / Jul 21, 2008 at 12:03 AM 2008年7月21日在上午12時03分
TRUE FITNESS CLOSING IN SINGAPORE>>>ANY NEWS ARE THEY GONNA RELOCATE ..真適收於新加坡“ ” “的消息，它們要去搬遷.. I am suprised that when the closure notice is out..the sales consultant are still doing their round and asking ppl to sign up…..我很驚訝，當關閉通知了..銷售顧問仍盡其輪，並要求私人飛行員執照註冊... ..
I've heard numerous complaints circulatin the internet about TF…more than other fitness centre….probably the other knows how to cover it well….我聽說過許多投訴circulatin互聯網關於金融...超過其他健身中心... 。也許是其他知道如何覆蓋好... 。
Is TF Really that bad in terms of customer service?是真的那麼壞因子方面的客戶服務？
Jessie // 傑西 / / Aug 21, 2008 at 9:38 AM 2008年8月21日在上午09時38分
True Spa is not being trained to be professional.真正的溫泉療養沒有得到訓練，以專業。 They fraud customer credit card and simply charged customer card as they like.他們欺詐客戶的信用卡，只需收取客戶的信用卡，他們喜歡。 I signed up for installment plan package and TS charged me for the one time payment.我註冊了分期付款封裝和TS收取我的一次性付款。 Now the TS consultant (Mohan) and the operation manager (April) are avoiding my calls and pushing all the responsibility to myself and the bank side.現在的Ts顧問（漢）和運營經理（ 4月）是避免我的呼籲和推動所有的責任和對自己的銀行一方。
I have lodge a fraud case to the citibank card center and in order for them to further investigate, we need teh EPP form and the agreement which I have signed.我已經提出欺詐案的花旗銀行信用卡中心，以使它們能夠進一步調查，我們需要的資源增值計劃的形式和我的協議已經簽署。 But TS is not helpful at all, I called TS form mronign till 10pm, all the receptionist told me that Mohan and April are engaged on the other line whole day long.但指標是無益的所有，我要求的Ts形式mronign到晚上10時，所有的接待員告訴我，漢和4月進行的其他線整天。 What kind of service is this?什麼樣的服務呢？ I lfet thousand of message but no one ever return my call.餘lfet萬的消息，但沒有人回我的電話。
I suggest you to change ur company TrueSpa to TrueCheat.我建議你改變我們的公司TrueSpa以TrueCheat 。 This is your main business anyway!這是您的主要業務反正！ I am very disappointing with all the treatment that I got from TS.我很失望所有的治療，我從指標。
Can someone pls look into this seriously?可有人請認真研究這個？
Jessie // 傑西 / / Aug 21, 2008 at 9:55 AM 2008年8月21日在上午09時55分
Can I have any top management contact or email?我可以擁有任何高級管理人員聯繫或發電子郵件？ As I find it useless to talk to all the staff in TS PJ branch, they are just not professional at all.當我找到它無用談的所有工作人員的Ts PJ分行，他們只是沒有專業的。 I am wasting my time talking to them.我浪費我的時間討論它們。
Victim // 受害者 / / Aug 21, 2008 at 10:10 AM 2008年8月21日在上午10時10分
I have a serious issue to address here…我有一個嚴重的問題，以解決這裡...
I visited TrueSpa in PJ with 2 friends last month, coz we have the free vouchers to try out their services.我訪問TrueSpa在PJ 2朋友上個月，怎麼我們有免費的憑單嘗試他們的服務。 tried the back massage and wasn't bad at tall.審判的背部按摩，而不是壞在Tall 。 after the massage session, as expected, the sales people will come over to promote their packages and ask us to join member.按摩會議後，一如市場預期，銷售人將過來，以促進他們的軟件包，並要求我們加入會員。
after detailed discussion, 3 of us agreed to join member of TrueSpa using 1 single member account.經詳細討論後， 3我們同意加入會員的TrueSpa使用1單一會員帳戶。 We will share the membership fees and share the payment equally.我們將分享會員費和共享同樣的付款。 I am the one who swiped my credit card using the 12 months free interest payment.我是誰刷我的信用卡使用的12個月內免費利息。 my other 2 friends can't make the payment on the spot due to credit card reached their limit.我的其他2個朋友無法支付在現場由於信用卡達到極限。 so my two friends filled in the monthly payment form for offline processing on later days.因此，我的兩個朋友填補每月付款形式為脫機處理後天。
after a few days, when 1 of my friend gave TrueSpa the credit card details for monthly payment, TrueSpa charged my friend's credit card for a 1 time payment!幾天後，當我的朋友1了TrueSpa信用卡細節每月付款， TrueSpa指控我的朋友的信用卡為1次付款！ we intend to use monthly payment scheme but TrueSpa charged my friend 1 time payment.我們打算利用每月付款計劃，但我的朋友TrueSpa收取1次付款。 not a small amount though.一個不小的數額了。 so my friend doesn't want it and asked TrueSpa to change to monthly payment.所以我的朋友不希望它和要求TrueSpa變更為每月付款。 according to the bank, it can be done, just need approval from the TrueSpa.根據世界銀行，這是可以做到的，只是需要批准TrueSpa 。 but when my friend called TrueSpa to ask them to approve, TrueSpa said the issue is between the bank and the owner of the credit card.但是，當我的朋友稱為TrueSpa ，請他們批准， TrueSpa說，問題是世界銀行與所有者的信用卡。 what the heck???什麼赫克？ ？ ？ then TrueSpa said if want to convert, my friend need to go TrueSpa and swipe the credit card AGAIN and they will convert to monthly payment.然後TrueSpa說，如果要轉換，我的朋友需要去TrueSpa和刷卡的信用卡，他們將再次轉換為按月支付。 what's the deal with this?有什麼處理？
who's correct and who's telling lie here?誰是正確的，誰告訴躺在這裡？ another of my friend not yet made the payment coz we want to settle this convert credit card payment first.另外我的朋友尚未付款，我們要怎麼解決這個轉換信用卡付款第一。 i lost trust on TrueSpa already…我失去了信任TrueSpa已經...
thanks謝謝
Victim // 受害者 / / Aug 21, 2008 at 10:38 AM 2008年8月21日在上午10時38分
We need to alert the public about all the tactic that TrueSpa use to cheat their customer.我們需要提醒市民的所有戰術的TrueSpa使用欺騙其客戶。 Dun ever give them your credit card, once you give them your credit card info, means you are putting urself into a deep s***.敦以往任何時候都給予他們您的信用卡，一旦你給他們您的信用卡信息，意味著你正在urself陷入深刻的縣***.
Come on….read this.來吧... 。閱讀。 Think twice before you step into this gym center :前請三思一步進入這個健身中心：
http://www.consumer.com.my/message/index.php?query=true+fitness&amount=0&blogid=1 http://www.consumer.com.my/message/index.php?query=true +健身金額= 0 ＆ blogid = 1
YPei // YPei / / Sep 17, 2008 at 5:18 PM 9月17日， 2008年在下午5點18分
Thanks Victim for sharing your views… I was being offered a FREE spa at the this TSpa so guess nothing comes in FREE…better luck next time由於受害者分享您的意見...我是可免費溫泉在此替哌這樣猜測，沒有一樣是自由...下一次更好的運氣
yeeping // yeeping / / Sep 30, 2008 at 9:47 AM 9月30日， 2008年在上午09點47分
TRUESPA & TRUEFITNESS are bigtime CHEATS…. TRUESPA ＆ TRUEFITNESS是bigtime作弊... 。 service sucks badly, plus they fraud Credit cards….服務吸收不好，再加上他們信用卡欺詐... 。 please be carefull, dont listen to those sales ppls sweet talking….請carefull ，不要聽那些銷售ppls口才... 。 its ALL empty promises全空頭支票
pl // 特等 / / Oct 6, 2008 at 4:58 PM 2008年10月6號在下午4時58分
i join the gym on August 2008…they charge me RM215 per month and RM50 processing fee…and i come from johor…they promise that if i no longer stay in kl…i can terminate my membership…and now…i'm leaving kl to johor…but they say if i want to terminate my membership…i do need some official letter to prove…我同健身... 2008年8月，他們負責我RM215每月50令吉處理費...和我來自柔佛...他們許諾，如果我不再留在吉隆坡...我可以終止我的會員資格，現在... ...我將離開吉隆坡到柔佛...但是他們說如果我想終止我的會員資格...我需要一些正式信函，證明...
nothing in name // 任何名稱 / / Oct 13, 2008 at 4:56 AM 2008年10月13號在上午04時56分
the operation manager, APRIL is a BLOODY BITCH!運作經理， 4月是一場血腥婊子！ she does not fit to be the operation manager of true spa..她不適合的運作經理真正的溫泉療養.. instead, she could have been a waste cooper or garbage collector!相反，她可能是一種浪費庫珀或垃圾收集！ she is a good pretender towards her boss, but towards her sales staffs and clients, she gives her SHITTY FACE, and HER BITCHY and WITHCY behaviour.她是一個很好的偽裝對她的老闆，但對她的銷售人員和客戶，她給她SHITTY的臉，和她的BITCHY和WITHCY行為。 true spa is going down to the drain with this bitch around there with you guyz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!真正的溫泉療養正在下降的流失這個婊子周圍有與你guyz !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
get rid of her 100%!擺脫她的100 ％ ！
what is ganesan doing???什麼是ganesan幹什麼？ ？ ？ sleeping?睡覺？
what's the purpose of him coming down every week to check on true spa?的目的是什麼他下樓每週檢查真正的溫泉療養？
ganesan! ganesan ！ a message to you too!一條消息給你呢！ please wake up!請醒來！ get rid of that bitch!擺脫這婊子！
True Fitness Hater // 真正的健身厭惡 / / Oct 15, 2008 at 1:52 AM 2008年10月15號在上午01點52
True fitness, as I personally believed, was always a bullshit gym.真正的健身，我個人認為，一直是布爾什特健身房。 Their staff… just 3 words.他們的工作人員...只有3字。 Entirely Fucked Up.完全性交漲。
Hate TF // 仇恨金融 / / Oct 28, 2008 at 2:50 PM 2008年10月28日在下午二點五十
Thanks for sharing all the info with us.感謝所有的信息共享與我們聯繫。 My friend has faced the same problem as well.我的朋友已經面臨著同樣的問題。 She got cheated by all the bloody sucking sales rep from True Fitness.她欺騙了所有的血腥吸吮銷售代表從真健身。 I am now awaiting them to close down!我現在等待他們關閉！
MY friend already lodge this case to consumer tribunal.我的朋友已經提出這種情況下，消費者法庭。
Pls bear in mind, nothing comes in free.請記住，沒有一樣是自由。 Dun let TrueFitness/Spa cheat you.敦讓TrueFitness溫泉/欺騙你。
Foxielady // Foxielady / / Nov 6, 2008 at 12:37 AM 2008年11月6日在上午12時37分
Dear All True Fitness member,親愛的一切真正健身的會員，
There are theft in the shower room!!有盜竊的淋浴房！ Someone took my toiletries bag when I am showering.有人拿走了我的化妝品袋當我洗澡。 Soo cheapskate!!洙小氣鬼！ I hang it outside my shower cubicle and when i finish my shower it is gone!!餘掛在我淋浴間，當我結束我的淋浴它不見了！ ！
TRUE FITNESS not safe!!!真實的適用性並不安全！
Please take note.請注意。 Luckily my valueables is not inside.幸運的是我沒有valueables內。 Just a few empty shampoo bottles and a watch.只有幾個空香波瓶和一隻手錶。
Guess this won't happen in other fitness centre.猜猜這不會發生在其他健身中心。
lim // 林 / / Nov 9, 2008 at 6:59 AM 2008年11月9號在上午06時59分
true fitness is so terrible!真正的適應性是非常可怕的！
from the payment to the services.從付款的服務。
ESPECIALLY the service and the way the run the place.特別是服務的方式運行的地方。
weeks back i needed to freeze my account to go abroad ,週回我需要凍結我的帳戶出國，
and they did not!他們沒有！
i did everything they wanted or needed which was phtostating passports,airline tickets,writing letter to them .我做的一切都是他們想要或需要的是phtostating護照，機票，寫一封信給他們。
actually i don't see why i have to go thru all this extra trouble just to freeze a damn account for two months,實際上我不明白為什麼我要通過這一切趁手只是凍結不在乎帳戶兩個月，
i mean ,afterall, it is MY ACCOUNT and MY MONEY.我的意思是，畢竟，這是我的帳號和我的錢。
so if its procedure that they REALLY have to abide to(which i really don't see why they need to take a look at my passport) then alright.所以，如果它的程序，他們真的都必須遵守，以（我真的不明白為什麼他們需要考慮一下我的護照） ，那麼好吧。
BUT EVEN ALL THE TROUBLE AND WAITING, their manager and workers put my papers aside and LEAVE MY ACCOUNT RUNNING .What are they doing?????但是，即使所有的麻煩和等待，他們的經理和工人把我的文件放在一邊，離開我的帳戶正常運作。他們現時做些什麼????? eating doughnuts and not doing their job????????吃甜甜圈，而不是完成了自己的工作????????
i only found out that when i called the gym to confirm my freezing of account when i was at the airport.我只找到了，當我打電話到我的健身房，以確認凍結帳戶時，我在機場。
and now it is STILL RUNNING,so I scolded them and they give me lousy reasons that i did not send an email.and i'll have to scan and photostat my passport for them to see to prove i did went overseas.現在它仍然在運行，所以我罵他們，他們給我糟糕的原因，我沒有發送email.and我要掃描和影印我的護照對他們看到，證明我沒有出國。
REMIND YOU TRUE FITNESS ,it is MY ACCOUNT even if i did lie,or even if it's not overseas,it could be death or sickness or just a time out.I the OWNER OF MY OWN ACCOUNT WHICH I PAID EVERY PENNY FOR is entitled to freeze my own account for any reason or NO REASON at all.TRUE FITNESS is really ushering customers out their door.提醒您真實的適用性，但我的帳戶，即使我沒有說謊，或者即使不是在海外，也可能是死亡或生病或只是一個時間out.I所有者我自己的帳戶，我付的是每一分錢都有權凍結自己的帳戶以任何理由或沒有理由all.TRUE適用性客戶真正迎來了自己的大門。
IT IS THE MOST TERRIBLE GYM I'VE BEEN TO.這是最可怕的健身房我去過。 comapred to gym's like celebrity is small but IS FRIENDLY,CONVENIENT,and priority is given to CUSTOMER CARE ,NOT JUST THE DAMN SALES!by which if course happens in true fitness because they just want you to signup and after that it's SOLO for you. comapred到健身房像名人雖小，但友好，方便，優先考慮客戶服務，而不只是該死的銷售！其中當然，如果發生在真實健身，因為他們只是想和你的申請後，它獨奏你。 workers there are terrible they act like they're working in LV boutique.有可怕的工人，他們的行為，他們正在努力低壓精品。
they act bossier than the customers,they should know their position there,for my watch could buy two years of their work there.This is because of their lousy training.他們的行為堂比顧客，他們應該知道他們的立場有，我看可以購買兩年的工作there.This是因為他們糟糕的培訓。
IF I COULD I WANT A REFUND FOR IT WAS THE DUMBEST DECISION TO EVER BE A MEMBER IN TRUE FITNESS JAYA 33.如果我能我要退還給它可說愚蠢的決定，恆是會員在真正的適用性再也33 。
I have adviced all my friends ,workers,family never to join .Do pass this to ppl that are ever going to join to reconsider.我已經通知我的所有朋友，工人，家人從來不參加。通過這種脂肪酶是以往任何時候都將加入重新考慮。
IF possible i would like an answer from them to tell me why are they doing a lousy lousy job!如果可能，我想從他們的答案告訴我，為什麼他們做了糟糕的糟糕的工作！
lim // 林 / / Nov 9, 2008 at 7:02 AM 2008年11月9號在上午07點02分
AND TRUE FITNESS NEEDS TO BE READING THIS ALONG WITH ALL THE COMMENTS ABOVE.just one more negligence and people are already gladly waiting to SUE YOU!和真正的適用性需要閱讀此連同所有評論ABOVE.just一個疏忽和人民已經欣然等待告你！
wong // 黃 / / Nov 12, 2008 at 1:13 PM 2008年11月12號在下午1點13分
why all the negative things about TF, are all of you from FF wanted to destroy TF?為什麼所有的負面東西因子，是大家從法郎要摧毀因子？
Come on!來吧！ let's be fair.我們是公平的。 Nothing is perfect.什麼是完美的。
I joined TF Taipan since Sep 08, has been using Gym & 200 hours of Yoga, i am so happy that i joined and i should have joined much earlier.我加入了金融大班9月08以來，一直使用健身房及200小時的瑜伽，我很高興，我加入了，我應該加入更早。 The staff there are friendly, the Yogi are friendly and professional, what else can i expect more ?工作人員有友好，瑜珈是友好和專業，我還可以期待更多的？
i converted to life member last month, if i am not satisfied, do you thing i will pay extra few thousands to convert to Life member ??字母i轉換為終身會員上個月，如果我不滿意，你我會加倍幾千轉換為終身會員？ ？
Think again.你就大錯特錯了。
S // 的S / / Nov 12, 2008 at 1:44 PM 2008年11月12號在下午1點44分
Well I agree with Wong, nothing is perfect but at the moment TF in Taipan is quite alrite, not that crowded and machine still well maintain…好吧，我同意黃，沒有什麼是完美的，但目前金融在相當alrite大班，而不是擁擠和機器仍維持...
The owner of TF is a Singaporean so he/she should be quite kiasu to want to maintain the quality of the machines not like CF …the machine all berkarat :P轉移因子的主人是一個新加坡人，使他/她應該相當kiasu要保持高質量的機器不喜歡參看...機器所有berkarat ：對
sux // sux的 / / Nov 14, 2008 at 8:56 PM 2008年11月14號在下午8時56分
i wonder are one of the staff in TF?我不知道是工作人員在金融？ I am suprised that got ppl thinking this way.我很驚訝的是，有脂肪酶思考這樣。 What i know is, TF is worse than a blood sucker.我所知道的是，金融不如血吸盤。 They are famous of bad management, lousy service and cheating customer.他們是著名的管理不善，糟糕的服務和欺騙客戶。
but TF is good bcos they have u to support them…lol但金融是好的bcos他們ü支持他們...大聲笑
TRUE spa's angry customer // 真正的溫泉療養的憤怒的客戶 / / Apr 12, 2009 at 3:10 PM 2009年4月12號在下午3點10分
I have joined True Spa since last year May.我已經加入了真正的溫泉療養自去年5月 I have been paying RM300 per month and I am supposed to be entitled to services such as massage, facial etc in my package.我一直每月支付RM300 ，我理應享有的服務，如按摩，面部等在我的包。 However I ended up having to pay other massage centres or visit other places for my massage, facial, manicure to be done, and the IRONY is NOT in True Spa!不過，我最後不得不支付其他按摩中心或訪問其他地方為我按摩，臉部按摩，修指甲要做的工作，並具有諷刺意味的不是真正的溫泉療養！ Does that make sense?這是否有道理？ I pay this spa RM300 per month but ended up paying extra and forced to go to other places to get my services.我要這個溫泉RM300每月但最終被迫付出額外的和去其他地方讓我的服務。 Why?為什麼？ Because it is IMPOSSIBLE to get an appointment !!!!因為它是不可能得到任命！ I questioned their customer service department as to why all their slots are always full, leaving only those odd honours free, which, a normal working client like me is not able to attend.本人質疑他們的客戶服務部門，為什麼他們所有的插槽都充分，只留下這些奇數榮譽自由，其中，正常工作的客戶和我一樣是未能出席會議。 Their answer (about 1 year ago ) is that they just started their business and thus most of the slots are reserved for “free trial” session to attract potential customer.他們的回答（約1年以前）是，他們剛剛開始他們的業務，因此大部分的插槽是預留作“免費試用”會議，以吸引潛在客戶。 We as PAYING CUSTOMER cannot help feeling that we are being CHEATED and NEGLECTED.我們支付客戶不能幫助的感覺，我們受到了欺騙和被忽視的。 However… 1 year later..然而... 1年後.. the same thing is still going on ..同樣的事情仍在進行中.. TRUE Spa is just interested to do sales but not providing services to paying customer who is ENTITLED to good services from them.真正的溫泉療養只是興趣做銷售，但不提供服務的付費客戶誰有權從這些良好的服務。 Once you become a member, you will never get your appointment unless you can plan your appointment 2 months ahead, which is RIDICULOUS and UNACEPPTABLE.一旦你成為會員，你將永遠不會讓您的任命，除非你可以計劃預約2個月前，這是荒謬的，而且UNACEPPTABLE 。
I strongly agreed with Lim saying that “IF I COULD, I WANT A REFUND, FOR IT WAS THE DUMBEST DECISION EVERTO BE A MEMBER OF TRUE SPA JAYA 33”.我強烈同意林說， “如果我能，我想退款，因為這是愚蠢的決定EVERTO的一員，真正的溫泉療養訊33 ” 。
I feel that I'ma stupid consumer and ended up becoming an angry consumer.我覺得我是一個愚蠢的消費者最終成為一個憤怒的消費者。
True Spa is not interested to solve our problems or attends to our complaints and neither do we get any feedbacks from their management nor from the front desk staff.真正的溫泉療養不感興趣解決我們的問題或參加我們的投訴和我們也沒有得到任何反饋，也沒有從他們的管理從前台的工作人員。 They will just ignore you.他們將剛剛忽視你。 I am left with no other option but to “speak up” !我沒有其他選擇，只有“說話” ！ I am resolved to approach their “potential customer” and start sharing my personal shocking and horrifying experiences with them and directing them to browse through reviews posted by other angry and unsatisfied customers in internet before they make the same mistake in signing up the membership program.我決心對待它們的“潛在顧客” ，並開始分享我個人的令人震驚和可怕的經驗，與他們同在，指導他們瀏覽評語發布的其他憤怒和不滿的顧客在互聯網之前就再犯同樣的錯誤在簽約的會員計劃。 Of course, the decision ultimately is in their hands, but I cannot stand idly and do NOTHING while others are being duped.當然，最終的決定是在他們手中，但我不能袖手旁觀，什麼也不做，而其他被欺騙。
If you are an angry or an unsatisfied customer like me, please join me.如果您是一個憤怒的或不滿意的客戶喜歡我，請和我一起。 Let our voices make a change, it is our DUTY and our RIGHTS as customers to send our message across to this SINGAPORE-based company make them aware that Malaysian customers deserved equally the same respect and treatment …讓我們的聲音做出改變，這是我們的責任和權利，我們的客戶向我們的信息傳遞給這個總部設在新加坡的公司使他們了解，馬來西亞的客戶同樣值得同樣的尊重和待遇...
su3nn // su3nn / / Apr 21, 2009 at 11:30 AM 2009年4月21日上午 11 時30分
i have TrueFitness Gym membership to sell/transfer, due to i have to move.我TrueFitness體育館成員出售/轉讓，因為我已經提出動議。 I will offer good price at 110 pm..我將提供良好的價格在110至.. for 3 yrs.為3歲。 free joining/processing fees..免費加入/加工費.. Its platinum membership..其鉑成員.. u can go to any branch and use all the facilities inc. ü可以到任何一間分行和使用的所有設施公司。 swimming pool (jaya33) Its a bargain!游泳池（ jaya33 ）及其便宜！ Free bag, towel and water bottle.免費袋，毛巾和水樽。 Do contact me if ur interested at不要與我聯繫，如果我們的興趣 su3nn@yahoo.com su3nn@yahoo.com . 。 Thanks!謝謝！
ann // 人工神經網絡 / / May 19, 2009 at 11:38 AM 2009年5月19號在上午11時38分
I've visited TF at Hartamas early of May 2009.我走訪了金融在Hartamas早期的2009年5月。 I wonder how the mgt came up with the pricing of products.我不知道如何管理提出了定價的產品。 The 1st time I went, the sales ppl Vijay had offered me the price of RM155/month, plus 3 types of one time fees.第一時間我去，銷售脂肪酶維杰辛已為我提供的價格RM155/month ，加上3種類型的一次性費用。 This for one year contract.這一年的合同。 If 2 years, price RM125.如果2年，價格RM125 。 (All the prices will be added with 5% tax). （所有價格將增加5 ％的稅） 。 After negotiation, the most that he could do was to reduce half of the 3 fees and said the monthly fee is fixed at RM155.經過談判，最，他所能做的就是減少一半的費用，並表示3月租費定為RM155 。 He said, even that price was given after considering for 2 ppl.他說，即使該價格是在考慮2脂肪酶。 (I came with my friend). （我與我的朋友） 。 Infact, when I asked about any other things that he could inform us, he said all info had been delivered although he only explained on the single pricing.事實上，當我問及任何其他東西，他可以告訴我們，他說，所有信息已交付但他只解釋單一定價。 He didn't even mention other packages, services, payment like, contract.他甚至沒有提及其他的軟件包，服務，付款一樣，合同。 The fact was he would only get idea to say when we raised the matters up.事實是，他將只能得到主意說，當我們提出的問題了。 He said payment is only thru credit card accepted.他說，付款只有通過接受信用卡。
A week after I (with friend) went to the TF (Hartamas) again and this time meet with another senior sales ppl, Ikbal. We told him that we'd been there last week and have asked him the best package for 1 year contract. This boy is quite honest and genuine. He explained in detail covers on the packages, pricing, services, contracts. He even explained the terms in the contract and remind us with many things. He said actually when clients understands well on the contract, the company will not face a lot of trouble dealing with many basic and common questions in the future. I love to share with you that for 2 yrs membership, the price was 99.00 (RM103.95 after tax). infact, there's a package of price RM86.90 (if not mistaken). For package 1 year is RM125/month (RM131.25 after tax) plus only pay 1 type of fee RM50. See, there's so much difference with the same package that Vijay had offered me. i think the afore sales ppl really sucked up client, he goes for higher margin. Friends out there, pls share with us if you get a better price. Even he said cash payment is accepted (monthly, pay at counter).