I do not really enjoy taking flight, especially long distance flight. Jeg ved ikke rigtig nyde under flyvningen, især langdistance flyvning. For economical seat, even for a slim traveler, airline seat is not comfortable. For økonomisk plads, selv for en slank rejsende, flysæder, er ikke behagelig. It can be worse for overweight people. Det kan være værre for overvægtige mennesker. Squeezing into a small seat with limited legroom can be frustrating. Klemme i en lille plads med begrænset benplads kan være frustrerende. I do not mean to discriminating, but it is not easy to sit next with the person who is overweight. Jeg mener ikke at diskriminere, men det er ikke nemt at sidde ved siden af med den person, der er overvægtige.
Airlines used to turn their eyes closed to this issue. Flyselskaber, der anvendes til at vende deres lukkede øjne til dette spørgsmål. But, not anymore. Men ikke længere. Two reasons – other passengers are complaining and the cost of fuel has been hovering at high price for some time since year 2005. To grunde - andre passagerer klager og udgifterne til brændstof har ligget ved høj pris for nogen tid siden år 2005.
Yes, people are complaining. Ja, er folk som klager. Southwest Airlines Southwest Airlines said that 90 percent of the complaints are from customers whose seats are “sat upon” by overweight neighbors who occupy part of their seats. sagde, at 90 procent af klagerne kommer fra kunder, hvis pladser er "sad på" af overvægt naboer, der optager en del af deres pladser. The airline has started to enforce its policy requiring overweight or obese passengers to purchase 2 tickets . Luftfartsselskabet er begyndt at håndhæve sin politik kræver overvægtige eller fede passagerer at købe 2 billetter. Overweight customers are furious about this enforcement. Overvægt kunder er rasende over denne håndhævelse. Depends how you look at it – some think that overweight passengers are punished but some applaud the move by making majority of its customers happy. Afhænger af, hvordan du ser på det - nogle mener, at overvægtige personer bliver straffet, men nogle klappe i bevægelse ved at gøre hovedparten af sine kunder glade.
This policy is not something new, just that Southwest Airlines did not enforce it all this while. Denne politik er ikke noget nyt, bare at Southwest Airlines ikke håndhæve den al denne tid.
So, what happen if the traveler requiring two seats but has not purchased two tickets? Så hvad sker der, hvis den rejsende, der kræver mindst to pladser, men har ikke købt to billetter? Southwest staff will take the passenger aside and explain the policy nicely. Southwest personalet vil tage passageren til side og forklare politiske pænt. Travelers denied boarding are recompensed with free airline tickets, hotel stays, and sometimes even free car rentals. Travelers boardingafvisning er belønnet med gratis flybilletter, hotelophold, og nogle gange endda gratis leje af bil. The airline tried to be fair too – if the larger traveler purchased his first ticket at full price, the second ticket can be purchased at the deeply discounted child's fare rate. Luftfartsselskabet forsøgt at være fair for - hvis de større rejsende har købt sin første billet til fuld pris, kan den anden billet købes på dybt diskonterede barnets billetpris. If first ticket is bought at a discounted rate, the second ticket will cost the same amount as the first. Hvis først billetten er købt til en rabatsats, vil den anden billet koste det samme beløb som den første. If a larger traveler fits into one seat but his seat belt does not fit, an extension will be provided free of charge. Hvis en større rejsende passer ind i det ene sæde, men hans sele ikke passer ind, en udvidelse vil være gratis. He will not have to buy two tickets. Han vil ikke have til at købe to billetter. Not too bad, most will agree. Ikke for dårligt, vil de fleste enige om.
However, activists for overweight people insisted that offering such small seats yet charging larger passengers for two seats is a form of discrimination against people who have a “disabling addiction to food” . Dog aktivister for overvægtige mennesker insisterede på, at tilbyde sådanne små pladser endnu opkræve større passagerer til to pladser er en form for diskrimination mod mennesker, der har en invaliderende afhængighed af fødevarer ".
Wait, sound as if they considering obesity is a “disease” which is beyond control. Vent, lyde, som om de overvejer at fedme er en "sygdom", som er uden for kontrol.
Since we are talking about charging more for overweight people, how about health insurance companies? Most of them are using BMI or other standard to determine the premium. Da vi taler om opkrævning mere for overvægtige mennesker, hvor omkring sundhed forsikringsselskaber? De fleste af dem benytter BMI eller anden standard at bestemme præmie. Overweight customers normally have to pay more compared to others. Overvægt kunder normalt skal betale mere i forhold til andre. It is true that overweight persons are charged more because of the chances of them suffering from weight-related health problems such as diabetes, hypertension, and heart disease are higher. Det er rigtigt, at overvægtige personer bliver opkrævet mere på grund af mulighederne for dem, der lider af vægt-relaterede sundhedsproblemer såsom diabetes, forhøjet blodtryk og hjertesygdomme er højere.
Apart from that, how about clothing company? People of larger size are paying more for clothing than people of average size do. Bortset fra det, hvad med Clothing Company? Folk i større størrelse, er at betale mere for tøj end folk i gennemsnit størrelse gør. I know that most companies in Thailand do that which XL and XXL are normally 10% more expensive than S, M and L size. Jeg ved, at de fleste virksomheder i Thailand gøre det, som XL og XXL er normalt 10% dyrere end S, M og L størrelse. The extra materials used is the reason the manufacturers do so. Den ekstra anvendte materialer er grunden til, at producenterne gør det. Not because of discrimination. Ikke på grund af forskelsbehandling.
Some will probably disagree – shouldn't the manufacturers use an average price for all sizes? Nogle vil sikkert uenig - ikke bør fabrikanterne bruger en gennemsnitlig pris for alle størrelser?
If that is the case, will it be fair to average-sized customers as they are paying for oversize people? Hvis dette er tilfældet, vil det være rimeligt at gennemsnittet mellemstore kunder, som de betaler for overstørrelse folk? Average size customer may complain. Gennemsnitlig størrelse kunde kan klage.
So, now, I guess you probably understand Southwest Airlines' policy better when comes to charging big size passengers more and not asking average size passengers to pay slightly more to compensate for the difference. Så, nu, tror jeg du forstår sikkert, Southwest Airlines 'politik bedre, når de kommer til opladning stor størrelse passagerer mere og ikke spørge gennemsnitlige størrelse passagerer til at betale lidt mere for at kompensere for forskellen.
If you look at restaurants, if you are big size and you want to eat more, you have to buy two meals. Hvis du ser på restauranter, hvis du er stor størrelse, og du ønsker at spise mere, er du nødt til at købe to måltider. You probably will not ask the waiter to serve you more and insist others to pay slightly more for the additional portion. Du vil sandsynligvis ikke bede tjeneren til at betjene dig mere og insistere andre til at betale lidt mere for den ekstra portion.
Back to the airline issue, most airlines are charging more for customers who bring overweight luggage. Tilbage til luftfartsselskabet spørgsmål, er de fleste flyselskaber opkræve mere for kunder, der sætter overvægtige bagage. Charging people differently based on weight is not discrimination, because weight is a key factor in determining the cost of the trip. In fact, more than forty percent of a flight cost structure is made up of the fuel and it is getting even more nowadays. Opladning mennesker forskelligt baseret på vægt er ikke diskrimination, fordi vægten er en afgørende faktor for udgifterne til turen. Faktisk mere end fyrre procent af en flyvning omkostningsstruktur består af brændstof, og det bliver endnu mere i dag.
Airlines are doing everything they can to reduce the weight of the plane. Switched from wide-body plane to turboprops, took away bulky magazines, replace metal forks and spoons to plastic made, charging more on overweight luggage. Flyselskaberne gør alt, hvad de kan for at reducere vægten af flyet. Skiftet fra wide-body fly til turbopropeller, tog omfangsrige blade, erstatter metal gafler og skeer til plast gjort, oplader den overvægtige bagage. The mentioned items may seem small, but when you consider airlines are flying millions of miles, they adds up over time. De nævnte punkter kan synes lille, men når man tænker flyselskaber flyver millioner miles, de tilføjer op over tid.
In the past, when the passengers gain weight, airlines went “on diet” with red figures in their account book. I fortiden, at passagererne tager på i vægt, når flyselskaber gik "om kost" med røde tal på deres konto bog. Probably not any more now. Sandsynligvis ikke noget mere nu. Asking overweight passengers to pay is one of the ways. Asking overvægt passagerer til at betale, er en af de måder. Airlines are looking for ways to survive and not so much in reaping profit. Flyselskaber er på udkig efter måder at overleve og ikke så meget i høste profit. For the first 5 months of 2008, more than 10 airlines have gone bankruptcy with the surge of jet fuel price. For de første 5 måneder af 2008, mere end 10 selskaber er gået konkurs med den kraftige stigning af jetbrændstof pris.
Overweight or obesity is not disease. Balancing diet and regular exercise are the solutions. Overvægt eller fedme er ikke sygdom. Afvejning kost og regelmæssig motion er de løsninger. If you are a frequent traveler and if you are overweight, I hope that you will really seriously consider taking action before your local airlines start to implement similar policy like Southwest Airlines. Hvis du er en hyppig rejsende, og hvis du er overvægtig, jeg håber, at du virkelig vil seriøst overveje at gribe ind, før din lokale flyselskaber begynde at implementere lignende politik som Southwest Airlines.
If there is a will, there is a way. Hvis der er en vilje, er der en vej.
What do you think, do you think Southwest Airlines is discriminating overweight passengers? Hvad tror du, tror du, Southwest Airlines er diskriminerer overvægtige passagerer?
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Damien Tan Damien Tan // / / Jun 24, 2008 at 8:48 AM 24 juni 2008 kl 8:48
A tough problem. En hård problem. Some may see it as a “pretty people only” rule which can lead to all sorts of complications. Nogle vil måske se det som en "smuk folk kun" regel, som kan føre til alle former for komplikationer. To me the only valid rule is the physcial endangerment rule. For mig er den eneste gyldige regel er den physcial truede reglen. Example, you must be of a certain height to get on rides in the park, else you endanger yourself and others. Eksempel, skal du være af en vis højde for at komme på forlystelser i parken, da man ellers bringer dig selv og andre. No one argues with that. Ingen hævder med.
As for airlines, there is a profit motive behind the tiny seats you get in economy, and I suspect seat sizes were taken from the century when fast food hadn't made people fat yet. Flyselskaberne er der et overskud motiverne bag den lille plads, du får i økonomien, og jeg tror sæde størrelser blev taget fra det århundrede, hvor fastfood ikke havde gjort folk fedt endnu. The average weight of people have increased but do the airlines change their seat configuration? Den gennemsnitlige vægt af mennesker er steget, men ikke luftfartsselskaberne ændrer deres sædekonfiguration? No. They rather charge double. Nej de hellere opkræve dobbelt. In other words, they don't want to change to suit the world. Med andre ord, de ikke ønsker at ændre de passer til verden. They want the world to change to suit them. De vil have verden til at ændre, der passer til dem. I think this is a battle they'll find hard to win. Jeg tror, dette er en kamp, de vil finde svært at vinde.
muchacha // muchacha / / Jun 24, 2008 at 11:42 AM 24 juni 2008 kl 11:42
It's high time airlines start to penalize grossly obese passengers. Det er på høje tid flyselskaber begynde at straffe grov fede passagerer. These passengers add stress not only to the plane but to the average air traveller as well. Disse passagerer tilføje stress ikke kun til den plan, men at den gennemsnitlige luft rejsende også.
durai durai // / / Jun 24, 2008 at 2:47 PM 24 juni 2008 kl 2:47
ya obese is a big problem…very good picture… ya fede er et stort problem ... meget godt billede ...
foongpc foongpc // / / Jun 24, 2008 at 5:06 PM 24 juni 2008 kl 5:06
No I don't think the airlines are discriminating against overweight people. Nej, jeg tror ikke, at flyselskaberne diskriminerer overvægtige mennesker. Firstly, if you can't fit into 1 seat and have to take 2 seats, it's only fair you pay for 2 seats. For det første, hvis du ikke kan passe ind i 1 sæde, og er nødt til at tage 2 pladser, det er kun fair, du betaler for 2 pladser. Secondly, if you are overweight, you are contributing to the weight of the plane, so you should pay more. For det andet, hvis du er overvægtig, er du bidrager til vægten af flyet, så du skal betale mere. Thirdly, you have a choice to lose weight. For det tredje, har du et valg at tabe sig. And losing weight just to board a plane is a good motivation too! Og vægttabet bare til bord på et fly er en god motivation også!
Nikki // Nikki / / Jul 5, 2008 at 10:37 PM 5 juli 2008 kl 10:37
I see this in practical terms and do not disagree with the comparisons to clothing and insurance premiums. Jeg ser dette i praksis og ikke uenig med sammenligninger til tøj og forsikringspræmier. However, the airlines do not have the opportunity to determine in advance of seeing the customer, if the customer is large enough to warrant two seats. Men flyselskaberne ikke har mulighed for at bestemme på forhånd at se kunden, hvis kunden er stor nok til at berettige to sæder. Maybe when making reservations, people will have to provide information regarding their height and weight. Måske når de foretager reservationer, vil folk nødt til at give oplysninger om deres højde og vægt. If they are over a certain height, an exit row or bulk head row seat should be provided to them. Hvis de er over en vis højde, bør en exit-række eller bulk hoved sæderække, skal gives til dem. If the are over a certain weight, they might have to buy two tickets. Hvis det er over en vis vægt, de måske nødt til at købe to billetter. If they lie about their weight, as most obese people do, then what? Hvis de ligger om deres vægt, som de fleste overvægtige mennesker gør, hvad så? What if the flight is sold out and there are no other tickets? Hvad hvis flyvningen er udsolgt og der er ingen andre billetter? Does the large person get pulled from the plane and have to rebook on the next flight that has two seats available? Er den store person får trukket fra flyet og har til rebook på det næste fly, som har to ledige pladser? What about the luggage? Hvad med bagagen? It goes ahead of them? Det går i spidsen for dem? This is going to be a difficult thing to control. Dette vil være en vanskelig ting at kontrollere. Maybe the planes should, one by one, be retrofitted to have less rows and larger seats. Måske fly bør, én efter én, eftermonteres at have mindre rækker og større pladser. That will increase fares. Det vil øge billetpriserne. Will airlines be required to have a few rows of seats that are larger placed in the coach cabin? Vil flyselskaberne forpligtet til at have et par rækker sæder, der er større placeret i vognen kabinen? First class seats are much larger. First class sæder er meget større. Those size seats in the back of the plane? Disse størrelse sæder bag i flyet? there is no easy answer. Der er ingen nemme svar.
Aobakwe Moeti // Aobakwe Moeti / / Oct 31, 2008 at 1:04 PM 31 oktober 2008 kl 1:04
I think it is a good idea but also a bad one, because it is not all who is obesed because he/she is a glutton or what. Jeg synes, det er en god idé, men også en dårlig, fordi det er ikke alle, der er obesed, fordi han / hun er en grovæder, eller hvad. This will cause a consternation and it is leading to nothing but stigmatization.Let,s sympathetically encourage them to lose weight and make them realised that obesity is healthy way of good life; Dette vil medføre en bestyrtelse og det fører til noget, men stigmatization.Let, s sympatisk tilskynde dem til at tabe sig og gøre dem klar over, at fedme er en sund måde at gode liv;
Erika // Erika / / Nov 1, 2008 at 6:15 AM 1 november 2008 kl 6:15
The only time this rule should be enforced is if someone literally can't fit into their seat. Den eneste gang denne regel skal håndhæves, er hvis man bogstaveligt talt ikke kan passe ind i deres sæde. But it should be done tactfully in a polite and private manner. Men skal det gøres taktfuldt på en høflig og privat måde. Also, if a passenger is required to take up a second seat and have to pay for it, I don't think that charging them full price is fair. Også, hvis en passager er forpligtet til at tage et andet sæde og er nødt til at betale for det, jeg ikke tror, at lade dem betale fuld pris er fair. There should be allowances or discounts that are applied in the event an overweight passenger has to purchase a second seat. Der skal være kvoter eller rabatter, der anvendes i tilfælde en overvægt passageren har til at købe et andet sæde. Flying should not only be about profits. Flying bør ikke kun handle om overskud. It should be a pleasant and satisfying experience. Det bør være en behagelig og tilfredsstillende oplevelse. Unfortunately flying in this day and age has become very stressful and not only for overweight people. Desværre fører i dag og alder er blevet meget stressende, og ikke kun for overvægtige mennesker. Everyone is having problems with airline travel! Alle er der problemer med flyrejser! I hope something is done to improve on the situation or I'm going to try avoiding it all together whenever possible! Jeg håber, at der gøres noget for at forbedre situationen, eller jeg vil prøve at undgå det hele sammen når det er muligt!
guy fyr // / / Nov 4, 2008 at 1:47 PM 4 november 2008 kl 1:47
i think its the right thing that they are over charging obes people because some people are careless they just eat and eat ignoring the fact that they will get fat its not discrimination at all they are trying to cover for their costs(business is business anyway).Maybe overcharging them will make them to consider the idea of minding their weight and tring to keep in shape.Also sum of this resturants that sell junk food are to blame because some the food they sell is not healthy. Jeg tror, det er rigtigt, at de er over opladning Obes folk, fordi nogle mennesker sløser de bare spise og spise ignorerer det faktum, at de vil få fedt sin ikke forskelsbehandling på alle de forsøger at dække deres omkostninger (forretning er forretning alligevel) . Måske overopladning dem vil gøre dem til at overveje tanken om pasning af deres vægt og Tring at holde shape.Also Summen af denne resturants, der sælger junkfood har skylden, fordi nogle af de fødevarer, de sælger, er ikke sundt.
eric modise // eric modise / / Nov 9, 2008 at 6:07 PM 9 november 2008 kl 6:07
if airlines are doing all they can to reduce the weight of planes,why can't an individual do it for his or her health status,i think it would be fair for an overweight person to pay for two tickets or three so that they may have a comfortable flight,u walk into KFC and u very hungry,u going to pay more in order for u to fill better.Its not really about discrimination,people have to make an effort in their life's to live a healthy life. hvis flyselskaberne gør alt, hvad de kan for at reducere vægten af fly, hvorfor kan en person gøre det for hans eller hendes sundhedstilstand, jeg tror, det ville være fair for en overvægtig person at betale for to billetter eller tre, så de kan har en behagelig flyvning, u gå ind KFC og u meget sulten, u kommer til at betale mere for for u at udfylde better.Its egentlig ikke om diskrimination, folk er nødt til at gøre en indsats i deres liv er til at leve et sundt liv. Please its not that hard,balance diet and exercising.So its really fair that overweight people have to pay for two tickets or three if they have to take the sits for a comfortable flight. Please sit ikke så svært, balance kost og exercising.So sit virkelig rimeligt, at overvægtige mennesker skal betale for to billetter eller tre, hvis de er nødt til at tage de sidder i en behagelig flyvning.
Benjamin Basholoko // Benjamin Basholoko / / Nov 11, 2008 at 12:13 AM 11 november 2008 kl 12:13
That would not be fair because all those guys they are not the ones who created them according to me the second ticket should be paid by the one who created them.even them i don't think think they like the way they are and that again could be descriminating them so i don't agree with the policy Det ville ikke være retfærdigt, fordi alle de fyre, de er ikke dem, der har skabt dem ifølge mig andet billetten skal betales af den, der skabte them.even dem tror jeg ikke tror, de kan lide den måde, de er, og det igen kunne være descriminating dem, så jeg er ikke enig med den politik,
daniel daniel // / / Nov 11, 2008 at 10:37 AM 11 november 2008 kl 10:37
From my point of view obes people should be charged extra cash on plane tickets as some of them are so fat that they occupy a lot of space hence limiting other people to sit comfortably.The other thing is that its upon an indivisual to either gain or loose weight so most people do not want accept fitness for a change so this leads to obesity.I do not think this airline people are being discriminative to obes people its only a way of letting them know that this is uncomfortable to most people. Fra mit synspunkt Obes folk bør blive opkrævet ekstra penge på flybilletter, da nogle af dem er så fede, at de optager en masse plads således begrænser andre mennesker til at sidde comfortably.The anden ting er, at den på en Indivisual til enten vinde eller løs vægt, så de fleste mennesker ikke vil acceptere egnethed til en ændring, så det fører til obesity.I tror ikke, at dette luftfartsselskab folk bliver diskriminerende to Obes folk sine kun en måde at lade dem vide, at det er ubehageligt for de fleste mennesker.
Ref Man Ref Man // / / Nov 17, 2008 at 3:15 PM 17 November 2008 kl 3:15
i don't think that will be good idea,the best way is to help by giving them the ideas of how the can lose weight Jeg tror ikke, at der vil være en god idé, den bedste måde er at hjælpe ved at give dem ideer til, hvordan de kan tabe sig
latoyah mpulubusi // latoyah mpulubusi / / Nov 18, 2008 at 9:33 PM 18 November 2008 kl 9:33
as much as it may seem unfair to obese people for them to pay for two seats, it is a very reasonable response to let them pay more.. så meget som det kan synes urimeligt at fede mennesker for dem til at betale for to sæder, det er en meget fornuftig reaktion at lade dem betale mere .. in all cases every one wants the best of what their pockect gave them.imagine having to travel for hours being squashed by a big person , having less air to breath and afraid to tell that u are not fine just 4 moral issues!!! i alle tilfælde hvert man ønsker det bedste af, hvad deres pockect gav them.imagine nødt til at rejse flere timer at blive mast af en stor person, der er mindre luft til at ånde og bange for at fortælle, at u er ikke fine kun 4 moralske spørgsmål! my GOD u wouldnt like it. min Gud u wouldnt lide det.
its time we face facts ! sin tid, vi står over for fakta! they do need two seats no matter how sad it may be, but they do.. de har brug for to sæder, uanset hvor trist det kan være, men de gør ..
Kobamelo Tshosa // Kobamelo Tshosa / / Dec 12, 2008 at 12:54 PM 12 december 2008 kl 12:54
Obesity is a very concerning matter which everyone should be aware of.We may think that blaming obese is the right choice but i think these people need our help.What they need is guidance and motivation to take regular excises to keep fit.Neglecting these disease make cause the increase of discrimination among people.Above all charging obese double price is not fair at all,come put yourself in they condition and think of what people may say about you. Fedme er en meget om spørgsmål, som alle bør være opmærksomme of.We tror måske, at skyde skylden fede er det rigtige valg, men jeg tror, at disse mennesker har brug for vores help.What de har brug for, er vejledning og motivation til at tage regelmæssige afgiftsstigninger for at holde fit.Neglecting disse sygdomme at medføre en forøgelse af diskrimination blandt people.Above alle afgifter fede dobbelte pris er ikke retfærdigt på alle, kom sætte dig i deres tilstand, og tænke på hvad folk siger om dig.
ELPHAS MADALA BROWN // ELPHAS MADALA BROWN / / Dec 12, 2008 at 1:32 PM 12 december 2008 kl 1:32
The term obesity is a heath disorder condition where ones body is overweight.Every one knows about this, its natural. Udtrykket fedme er en hede lidelse tilstand, hvor dem, kroppen er overweight.Every en kender om dette, dens naturlige. I don't see any good reason why obese people should be charged extra money in southwest airlines because they had not don it deliberately so they should treat them equal like every body traveling on airlines . Jeg kan ikke se nogen god grund til, at fede mennesker bør blive opkrævet ekstra penge i Southwest Airlines, fordi de ikke havde don det bevidst, så de skal behandle dem lige som ethvert organ, der rejser på flyselskaberne. To solve the problem of occupation of two sits the days of traveling must be scheduled based on the number of passengers at a particular day.if then there are spare sits then they can be offered two sits to make them comfortable. For at løse problemet med besættelse af to sidder dage rejser skal planlægges baseret på antallet af passagerer på en bestemt day.if så er der ekstra sidder så kan de blive tilbudt to sætter sig for at gøre det godt for dem. As human beings we should cooperate and feel empathy for others as no one knows what will happen in the future. Som mennesker bør vi samarbejde og føle empati for andre, som ingen ved, hvad der vil ske i fremtiden.
Le Jacq // Le Jacq / / Jan 25, 2009 at 10:55 AM 25 januar 2009 kl 10:55
Fat people, if not really really big people, are the majority of the population. Fedt mennesker, hvis det ikke virkelig virkelig store mennesker, er størstedelen af befolkningen. Maybe really big should stop flying altogether and put the airlines out of business. Måske helt store bør stoppe helt flyvende og satte flyselskaber ud af markedet.
You penalize obese people, they penalize you right back. Du straffe fede mennesker, de straffe dig tilbage.
Ever notice how airlines are losing money now and flights are taking off empty? Nogensinde mærke til, hvordan flyselskaberne mister penge nu og flyvninger start tom? This is a good time for ALL obese people to stay off the planes. Dette er en god tid for alle fede mennesker at holde dig fra fly.
I'ma thin guy and I'm joining them in not flying. Jeg er tynd fyr, og jeg slutter sig til dem i ikke at flyve.
travelgirl // travelgirl / / Mar 15, 2009 at 6:41 AM 15 marts 2009 kl 6:41
SOME OF YOU PEOPLE ARE SO DENSE! Nogle af jer folk er så TÆTTE! Some obese people that way BECAUSE of medical conditions and not a lack of will power or eating and eating and eating. Nogle fede mennesker således på baggrund af medicinske tilstande og ikke manglende vilje, magt eller spiser og spiser og spiser. That is a common misconception. Det er en almindelig misforståelse. I am overweight due to a hormonal condition that makes it almost impossible to lose weight. Jeg er overvægtige på grund af en hormonel tilstand, der gør det næsten umuligt at tabe sig. So STOP blaming these people when you DONT know their individuall story. Så STOP bebrejde disse mennesker, når du ikke kender deres individuall historie. My opinion is that the airlines should have a row or two of roomier seating especially for people with disablities and obese people can sit there, because for those large people who cant control their weight, obesity it is truly a disablilty! Min opfattelse er, at flyselskaberne skal have en række eller to af roomier sæder specielt for personer med disablities og fede mennesker kan sidde der, fordi det for de store mennesker, der kan ikke kontrollere deres vægt, fedme er det virkelig et disablilty! However until anything changes…I would buy two seats if I had to…for MY comfort. Men indtil noget ændringer ... Jeg ville købe to pladser, hvis jeg skulle ... for MY komfort. I dont want to be squished myself. I dont ønsker at være squished mig selv. For people who are THAT huge, it would be appropriate for them to think about the comfort of others and paying for another seat. For mennesker, der er det store, vil det være hensigtsmæssigt for dem at tænke på komfort for andre og betale for en anden plads. As for the person mentioning the pregnant woman shrieking that her baby was hurting…that is bull, the reason she was probably asked to changed flights is because she was causing a scene, if that was handled more discretely maybe the outcome would of been different and the fat person would have been moved to another flight or another seat beside somone who didnt mind sitting beside him. Med hensyn til den person, hvori den gravide kvinde skrige, at hendes barn var såre ... det er tyr, er grunden til, at hun sandsynligvis var bedt om at ændre flybilletter, fordi hun skabte en scene, hvis det blev håndteret mere diskret måske resultatet ville været anderledes, og fedt person ville have været flyttet til et andet fly eller et andet sæde ved siden somone der gjorde opmærksom sidder ved siden af ham. Yes many fat people could work on lifestyle changes, but many cannot. Ja, mange fede mennesker kunne arbejde med livsstilsændringer, men mange kan ikke. So this general judgement of these ones is just unfair! Så denne generelle dom af disse, er bare uretfærdigt!
Mellisa // Sunny / / Apr 15, 2009 at 1:16 PM 15 april 2009 kl 1:16
omg..I cant believe this whole topic…this is a form of discrimation and its hard losing weight..sooo because your obese you shouldnt be able to travel to different places..when is this gonna change this doesnt make any sense..I am a obese person and im seriously doubting my trip because I dont want to get on the plane and be humilated because I may need a seat belt extention or a extra seat..it hurts the people stare and chuckle at you and I dont think its right!! OMG .. Jeg kan ikke tro, hele dette emne ... dette er en form for discrimation og dens hårde tabe .. sooo fordi din fede du skulle ikke være i stand til at rejse til forskellige steder .. hvor er dette gonna ændre dette gør ikke nogen mening .. Jeg er en overvægtig person og im alvorligt tvivle på min rejse, fordi jeg dont ville gerne komme på flyet og skal humilated fordi jeg kan få brug af sikkerhedssele extention eller et ekstra sæde .. det gør ondt at folk stirrer og klukle på dig, og jeg dont mene sin ret!
Sam // Sam / / Apr 17, 2009 at 9:31 AM 17 april 2009 kl 9:31
Wait wait wait…they want obese ppl to pay for 2 tickets? Vent vent vent ... de vil overvægtige ppl til at betale for 2 billetter? Woooow what is this world coming to? Woooow hvad er denne verden kommer til? This is bullshit! Det er noget pis! I'm not overweight, but it's so wrong. Jeg er ikke overvægtig, men det er så galt. Airlines just want to make more money obviously especially if they are going bankrupt. Flyselskaber blot ønsker at tjene flere penge naturligvis især hvis de går konkurs. They know that the US has thousands of overweight ppl and they are taking advantage. De ved, at USA har tusindvis af overvægt ppl, og de udnytter. It's bad enough that tickets cost like 200-400 dollars and they want them to buy 2 tickets, even if they don't have to pay full price for the second ticket that's like almost 500 dollars for round trip tickets or maybe even more depends on where you're going. Det er slemt nok, at billetterne koste gerne 200-400 dollars og de vil have dem til at købe 2 billetter, selv om de ikke behøver at betale fuld pris for den anden billet, det er ligesom næsten 500 dollars for tur / retur billet eller måske endnu mere afhængig af hvor du skal hen. This is just gonna cause more chaos. Dette er blot gonna skabe mere kaos. I hope they really sit down and think about what they're doing because this is just ridiculous. Jeg håber, at de virkelig sætte sig ned og tænke over, hvad de laver, fordi det er bare latterligt.
GC // GC / / Apr 17, 2009 at 9:57 AM 17 april 2009 kl 9:57
There are a number of diseases which *do* cause obesity. Der er en række sygdomme, som * ikke * forårsager fedme. Numerous thyroid conditions to name just one family of them. Talrige skjoldbruskkirtlen betingelser for blot at nævne en familie af dem.
I am 5′11″, 220lbs. Jeg 5'11 ", 220 £. I'm not grossly overweight, but I still don't fit in those tiny seats without rubbing the person next to me. Jeg er ikke groft overvægtig, men jeg stadig ikke passer ind i de bittesmå pladser uden at gnide den person, der ved siden af mig. Remember that “average” in the US is about 6″ of height and close to 80lbs over “average” in Thailand. Husk, at "gennemsnitlige" i USA er ca 6 "af højde og tæt på 80 £ over" gennemsnitlige "i Thailand. If I weighed 160 lbs, I'd *still* have to wear XL sized T-shirts because of my natural, /skeletal/, shoulder width. Hvis jeg vejede 160 £, så ville jeg * stadig * nødt til at bære XL størrelse T-shirts på grund af min naturlige, / skelet /, skulder bredde. Those seats fit an average American pre-teen. Disse sæder passer til en gennemsnitlig amerikansk pre-teen.
So. Så. When will they stop overbooking? Hvornår vil de stoppe med overbookning? when will they stop charging me for the lousy 15-lb bag I had to check? når de vil stoppe opladningen mig for luset 15-lb pose jeg var nødt til at tjekke?
Any airline that discriminates because of customer size isn't getting my business. Ethvert luftfartsselskab, der diskriminerer på grund af kundens størrelse er ikke at få min virksomhed. So I guess no, I do not agree. Så jeg tror ikke, jeg er ikke enig.
Karen B. - New York // Karen B. - New York / / Apr 18, 2009 at 6:21 AM 18 april 2009 kl 6:21
I understand the problem BUT those condeming oversized people should understand that NOT all oversized people are that way because of overeating…. Jeg forstår problemet, men de condeming overdimensionerede folk skal forstå, at ikke alle overdimensionerede mennesker er på den måde på grund af overspisning .... I have medically diagnosed condition that causes weight gain and the inability to lose weight….. Jeg har lægeligt konstateret betingelse af, at årsagerne til vægtøgning og manglende evne til at tabe sig ... .. I have insulin resistance, hashimoto's thyroiditis, pcos and vitamin D deficiency which ALL cause weight gain and the inability to lose weight….. Jeg har insulinresistens, Hashimoto's thyreoiditis, pcos og vitamin D-mangel, som alle forårsage vægtstigning og den manglende evne til at tabe sig ... .. In fact, I don't eat half of what a skinny person eats…. Faktisk tror jeg ikke spiser halvdelen af hvad en tynd person spiser .... So, why should I be punished for something that is NOT even my fault and that IS MEDICALLY DIAGNOSED by a licenced Physician / Specialist……… Så hvorfor skulle jeg blive straffet for noget, der ikke engang min skyld, og det er lægeligt konstateret ved et godkendt læge / specialist ... ... ...
TOM RHODES // TOM Rhodos / / Apr 19, 2009 at 12:00 AM 19 april 2009 kl 12:00
THE AIRLINES DO HAVE A RIGHT TO SELL THEM TWO TICKETS FOR BEING OVERWEIGHT. Luftfartsselskaberne har en ret til at sælge dem to billetter til overvægt. THEY DID THIS FOR YEARS ON OVERWEIGHT LUGGAGE. De gjorde dette i årevis overvægtige bagage.
THE ISSUE IS THE COST OF FUEL. Spørgsmålet er udgifterne til brændstof. IF YOU ARE OVERWEIGHT THAN DON'T FLY Hvis De er overvægtig END IKKE FLY
UNLESS YOU CAN AFFORD THE EXTRA TICKET. MEDMINDRE DU har råd til den ekstra billet. THAT IS FAIR NOWADAYS, AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN 20 YEARS OR 30 YEARS AGO, THEN NO ONE COULD BITCH ABOUT IT. Der er fair i dag, og skulle have været 20 eller 30 år siden, har ingen kunne brokke dig over it. WE ARE STRAINING THE OIL RESERVES NOW! WE ARE belaste de oliereserver NU!
GET USED TO IT, OR DON'T FLY. Vænne sig til det, eller ikke flyve. PERIOD. PERIODE.
Boyd // Boyd / / Apr 19, 2009 at 12:14 AM 19 april 2009 kl 12:14
The airlines are – again – putting themselves out of business. Luftfartsselskaberne er - igen - at sætte sig ud af markedet. It doesn't matter if logically 2 seats = 2 tickets. Det betyder ikke noget, hvis logisk 2 pladser = 2 billetter. What matters is by charging double for a situation caused by uncomfortably small seating you create loss of passengers. Det afgørende er ved at opkræve dobbelt for en situation som følge af ubehageligt små sæder du oprette tab af passagerer. No passengers = no revenue. Ingen passagerer = ingen indtægter. They will spiral down until they become just another charter service. De vil spiral ned, indtil de bliver blot endnu et charter service. No more commercial airlines will exist if they don't start thinking of a viable solution. Ikke mere kommercielle flyselskaber vil eksistere, hvis de ikke begynder at tænke på en holdbar løsning.
TOM RHODES // TOM Rhodos / / Apr 19, 2009 at 5:29 PM 19 april 2009 kl 5:29
I THINK THAT PEOPLE THAT ARE GROSSLY OVERWEIGHT SHOULD BE SOLD A Jeg tror, at folk, der er kraftigt overvægtige bør sælges A
FIRST CLASS TICKET, OR TWO SEATS. FIRST CLASS billet eller to pladser. IT IS PERFECTLY RIGHT TO DO SO. Det er helt ret til at gøre SO.
I DON'T FLY BUT PEOPLE THAT ARE GROSSLY OVERWEIGHT SHOULD EXPECT Jeg flyver ikke, men folk, at de er kraftigt overvægtige bør forvente
THE EXTRA SEAT, OR FIRST CLASS TICKET. DEN ekstra plads, eller første klasse. PERIOD. PERIODE.
I AM NOT OVERWEIGHT, BUT PEOPLE THAT WANT TO FLY AS OPPOSED TO TAKING A BUS, OR TAKE A TRAIN. JEG ER IKKE overvægtig, men folk, der ønsker at flyve så FORHOLD TIL UNDER EN BUS, eller tage et tog. EVEN THEN THEY ARE UNCOMFORTABLE Selv dem er ubehagelig
WHEN TRAVELING SHOULD STAY AT HOME. Når du rejser skulle blive hjemme. THAT IS FAIR TO THE PEOPLE Det er fair til folket
THAT ARE NORMAL. DETTE ER NORMAL.
OVERWEIGHT PEOPLE THAT CAUSES THE PROBLEMS WITH TRAVEL SHOULD NOT TAKE JOBS THAT REQUIRE TRAVELING ON AIRPLANES SHOULD DIET, OR Overvægtige mennesker, der forårsager problemerne med REJSER bør ikke tage jobs, som kræver PAUL om bord på fly SKAL kost, eller
DIE. DIE. WE ARE NOT GOING TO MAKE NORMAL PEOPLE UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THESE PEOPLE THAT CAN'T CONTROL THEIR WEIGHT, ONE WAY OR ANOTHER Vi vil ikke foretage almindelige MENNESKER godt med disse mennesker, at ikke kan kontrollere deres vægt, EN eller anden måde
PEOPLE THAT ARE GROSSLY OVERWEIGHT LOOSE THE WEIGHT AND THE HEALTH PROBLEMS THAT COME WITH IT. Mennesker, der er kraftigt overvægtige LØS vægten og helbredsmæssige problemer, der følger med.
THE INSURANCE COMPANIES HAVE DONE THIS FOR YEARS. DEN forsikringsselskaber har gjort det i årevis. IT IS TIME THE AIRLINES TO DO THE SAME. Det er på tide flyselskaberne om at gøre det samme. PERIOD. PERIODE.
THEY SHOULD HAVE DONE THIS FOR LAST 20 YEARS, AND THIS PROBLEM De skulle have gjort det for sidste 20 år, og dette problem
WOULD JUST GO AWAY. VILLE bare gå væk. GET USED TO IT, OR LIKE I STATED BEFORE TAKE A BUS, OR TRAIN. Vænne sig til det, eller Som jeg tidligere nævnt tage en bus, eller tog.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
Michael // Michael / / Apr 20, 2009 at 10:50 PM 20 april 2009 kl 10:50
I completely am behind this decision to charge obese people for more than one seat or a first class seat. Jeg er helt mig bag denne beslutning om at opkræve fede mennesker i mere end ét sæde eller en førsteklasses sæde. Is it sad? Er det trist? of course and I do feel bad for them. selvfølgelig, og jeg føler dårligt for dem. however this is a huge problem with society and I have actually had to sit next to someone “overflowing” into my seat on a plane and I must say. Men dette er et enormt problem med samfundet, og jeg har faktisk haft til at sidde ved siden af nogen, "flyde" ind på min plads på et fly, og jeg må sige. I was fairly pissed about it. Jeg var temmelig pissed over det. I wish there was some other way to solve the problem but Ill have to side with the airlines on this issue. Jeg ville ønske der var en anden måde at løse problemet, men Ill nødt til side med flyselskaberne om dette emne. it is important that everyone on the plane is as comfortable as possible. Det er vigtigt, at alle på flyet er så behageligt som muligt.
PG // PG / / Apr 21, 2009 at 7:09 AM 21 april 2009 kl 7:09
I want to know why you all think it is okay to charge an overweight person 2x for everything they buy — because they supposedly take up 2x the room-material-space -et cetera but you do not cut the price for people who are small? Jeg vil gerne vide, hvorfor du tror alle, at det er okay at opkræve en overvægtig person 2x for alt, hvad de køber - fordi de angiveligt tage op 2x værelse-materiale-space-et cetera, men du behøver ikke skære prisen for folk, der er små? My son is quite large – over 300 pounds and pays 2x for everything – I am size 00 – I pay 2x for everything because I am not “average”. Min søn er meget stor - over 300 pounds og betaler 2x for alt - jeg er str. 00 - jeg betaler 2x for alt fordi jeg ikke er "gennemsnitlige". Is it just my family that is being penalized? Er det bare min familie, der bliver straffet?
CS // CS / / May 27, 2009 at 1:11 AM 27 maj 2009 kl 1:11
I am extremely overweight. Jeg er meget overvægtige. I just took a trip on Southwest. Jeg tog bare en tur på Southwest. I had to buy 2 tickets. Jeg var nødt til at købe 2 billetter. Fine, I have no problem with that, but the airline can overbook a plane and sale the second seat to someone else. Fint, jeg har ingen problemer med, men flyselskabet kan overbooke et fly og salg andet sæde til en anden. So now 2 people have paid for the same seat. Så nu 2 personer har betalt for den samme plads. Explain how that fixes the problem. Forklare, hvordan det løser problemet. I see some of you are siding with the airlines like they are your friend by making someone buy 2 tickets. Jeg ser nogle af jer er sidespor med flyselskaber, som de er din ven ved at gøre en person købe 2 billetter. So now that you still have to set by a fat person who just paid out way more money than you did is now uncomfortable themselves. Så nu, at du stadig har at sætte en fed person, der bare betales måde flere penge, end du gjorde nu er ubehageligt selv.
eric // eric / / Sep 8, 2009 at 10:37 PM 8 september 2009 kl 10:37
I find the comments quite agrivating claiming all people who are over weight is due to eating too much, etc. My spouse is overweight due to illness and medications that cause weight gain. Jeg synes de bemærkninger ganske agrivating påstår alle mennesker, der er over vægten skyldes at spise for meget, osv. Min ægtefælle er overvægtige på grund af sygdom og medicin, der forårsager vægtforøgelse. Not to mention limited mobility from her illness does not allow for much exercise. Ikke at nævne begrænset mobilitet fra hendes sygdom ikke giver mulighed for meget motion. Foe one such as her to ha\ve gone from running 2 miles a day to not able to get around as well is disheartening as it is, but then to have this type of judgement is pathetic. Foe en som hende til at ha \ ve gået fra at køre 2 miles en dag ikke i stand til at komme rundt og er forstemmende, som det er, men så til at have denne form for dom er patetisk.
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!? // ER you kidding me?!? / / Jan 5, 2010 at 3:28 AM 5 januar 2010 kl 3:28
The problem is with the airlines, not the imperfect person. Problemet er med de flyselskaber, ikke den ufuldkomne person. The average sized human being has changed dramatically since airline seats were engineered. Den gennemsnitlige størrelse menneske har ændret sig dramatisk siden flysæder var manipuleret. Also, there is a wide spectrum of size when height and weight are factored into the equation. Der er også et bredt spektrum af størrelse, når højde og vægt er indregnes i ligningen.
Example: 5′0 small-framed woman who weighs 220 pounds would be considered morbidly obese. Eksempel: 5'0 små indrammede kvinde, der vejer 220 pounds ville blive betragtet som sygeligt overvægtige. 6′0 large-framed woman who weighs 250 pounds would be considered overweight. 6'0 store indrammet kvinde, der vejer 250 pounds ville blive betragtet som overvægtige. The shorter woman might not be required to purchase a second ticket, but the taller woman might have to. Den kortere Kvinden kan ikke være forpligtet til at købe en anden billet, men de højere kvinde kan have til. Therefore, should a person be penalized for being tall. Derfor bør en person skal straffes for at være høj. The author of this blog may feel that “fat” people should be treated as inferior individuals, but does that apply to tall people as well? Forfatteren af denne blog kan føle, at "fedt" mennesker bør behandles som mindreværdige individer, men som gælder for høje mennesker også? Maybe these skinny people who have never experienced any kind of weight problem should fly in first-class if they don't want to sit next to us “disgusting” overweight people. Måske disse magre mennesker, der har aldrig oplevet nogen form for vægt problem skulle flyve på første klasse, hvis de ikke ønsker at sidde ved siden af os "modbydeligt" overvægtige mennesker. Seriously!!!! Seriøst!!
Don LaJocies // Don LaJocies / / Jan 25, 2010 at 5:54 AM 25 januar 2010 kl 5:54
All people come in different sizes shapes and colors. Alle mennesker kommer i forskellige størrelser, former og farver. To say that one group of people should pay more because they are different in Discrimation… At sige, at en gruppe mennesker skal betale mere, fordi de er forskellige i Discrimation ...
Murf // Murf / / Feb 18, 2010 at 7:28 AM 18 februar 2010 kl 7:28
Well – let's take this a few steps further. Nå - lad os tage et par skridt videre. In order to be consistent and fair – Maybe we should adjust taxes based on usage as well – households that utilize more services – schools in particular, should be taxed at higher rates. For at være konsekvent og retfærdigt - Måske skulle vi tilpasse skatter på forbrug samt - husstande, der anvender flere tjenester - skoler i særdeleshed bør beskattes med højere satser. The more children, the higher the tax burden. Jo flere børn, jo højere skattetryk.
Come on folks, think about the big picture, slight pun intended … Kom nu folkens, tænke på det store billede, let bestemt ordspil ...