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		<title>By: Rosey</title>
		<link>http://munfitnessblog.com/the-truth-behind-yoga-zones-problem-and-the-road-ahead-for-other-fitness-centers/#comment-13292</link>
		<dc:creator>Rosey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 03:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My last phone conversation with Ferrier Hodgson was in earlier of this year and till now nothing has been done and not a single word from them. WILL I EVER GET BACK MY MONEY, WHICH HAS ALREADY BEEN PAID IN FULL TO Y FITNESS ????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My last phone conversation with Ferrier Hodgson was in earlier of this year and till now nothing has been done and not a single word from them. WILL I EVER GET BACK MY MONEY, WHICH HAS ALREADY BEEN PAID IN FULL TO Y FITNESS ????</p>
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		<title>By: Anti Cheater</title>
		<link>http://munfitnessblog.com/the-truth-behind-yoga-zones-problem-and-the-road-ahead-for-other-fitness-centers/#comment-9933</link>
		<dc:creator>Anti Cheater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>they are all cheater, enuf said... throw the cunning y fitness to hell</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>they are all cheater, enuf said&#8230; throw the cunning y fitness to hell</p>
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		<title>By: Rosey</title>
		<link>http://munfitnessblog.com/the-truth-behind-yoga-zones-problem-and-the-road-ahead-for-other-fitness-centers/#comment-9925</link>
		<dc:creator>Rosey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 12:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to be a member of Y Fitness. I joined this club with full confidence in early 2008. I even signed up for a personal training membership. All in all I spent about RM3,000 for a year membership. However, 2 or 3 months down the road, the centre starts to show signs of bad management and maintenance. There was always no water for showering and we signed a petition on that and the management did nothing!! I had hardly use the membership and not even 2 months into my personal training, I was informed that the centre is closing down. Worst of all, the bank is still charging me the installment. I filed a claim to the managing company of this case in KL and a copy of my claim has been sent to my bank and this was in September 2008. From then till now, nothing has been done and I don&#039;t even know if I can ever get back my money!!!

Now that Core Fitness is opened, I have been receiving numerous calls from them to get me to go back. Honestly, do you think for an ex member who has already had a bad experience with the previous fitness centre would actually want to sign back again even though the management people are totally different? Let me tell you, until today I have hugely refused to go back simply because I have spent about RM3,000 before and I can&#039;t even get back a single cent and I am encouraged to go back??? My confidence in a new fitness centre in KK has dropped to beyond zero. They do not even come up with a special or different package to entice the old members to come back. What a bad marketing strategy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to be a member of Y Fitness. I joined this club with full confidence in early 2008. I even signed up for a personal training membership. All in all I spent about RM3,000 for a year membership. However, 2 or 3 months down the road, the centre starts to show signs of bad management and maintenance. There was always no water for showering and we signed a petition on that and the management did nothing!! I had hardly use the membership and not even 2 months into my personal training, I was informed that the centre is closing down. Worst of all, the bank is still charging me the installment. I filed a claim to the managing company of this case in KL and a copy of my claim has been sent to my bank and this was in September 2008. From then till now, nothing has been done and I don&#8217;t even know if I can ever get back my money!!!</p>
<p>Now that Core Fitness is opened, I have been receiving numerous calls from them to get me to go back. Honestly, do you think for an ex member who has already had a bad experience with the previous fitness centre would actually want to sign back again even though the management people are totally different? Let me tell you, until today I have hugely refused to go back simply because I have spent about RM3,000 before and I can&#8217;t even get back a single cent and I am encouraged to go back??? My confidence in a new fitness centre in KK has dropped to beyond zero. They do not even come up with a special or different package to entice the old members to come back. What a bad marketing strategy!</p>
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		<title>By: lanhwa</title>
		<link>http://munfitnessblog.com/the-truth-behind-yoga-zones-problem-and-the-road-ahead-for-other-fitness-centers/#comment-9590</link>
		<dc:creator>lanhwa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 02:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Judy,

This is the minority shareholder, Lay Gaik, to snatched the business from the founder followed by keep on changing entity and not to honour the previous membership. You will never know how cunning is this woman as she successfully using RM 600,000 to swallow three outlets, now the these outlets were sold to TSM, another entity which apparently is related to Lay Gaik.

If Mun likes to mention about the bad apple, this is the worst ever apple you can find in Malaysia fitness and wellness scene.

The new rule is &quot;ALL MEMBERS WILL BE CHARGED FOR RM 168 MONTHLY!&quot;,stupid, higher than fitness first one club membership fees, I believe that she&#039;s too big headed to carry on this business. 

Good luck to all!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Judy,</p>
<p>This is the minority shareholder, Lay Gaik, to snatched the business from the founder followed by keep on changing entity and not to honour the previous membership. You will never know how cunning is this woman as she successfully using RM 600,000 to swallow three outlets, now the these outlets were sold to TSM, another entity which apparently is related to Lay Gaik.</p>
<p>If Mun likes to mention about the bad apple, this is the worst ever apple you can find in Malaysia fitness and wellness scene.</p>
<p>The new rule is &#8220;ALL MEMBERS WILL BE CHARGED FOR RM 168 MONTHLY!&#8221;,stupid, higher than fitness first one club membership fees, I believe that she&#8217;s too big headed to carry on this business. </p>
<p>Good luck to all!</p>
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		<title>By: Judy</title>
		<link>http://munfitnessblog.com/the-truth-behind-yoga-zones-problem-and-the-road-ahead-for-other-fitness-centers/#comment-9576</link>
		<dc:creator>Judy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 02:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The company that took over Yogazone &#039;s operation in Plaza Damas and Kepong is called Urbanyoga. We were told that as ex members /life time members we could enjoy the special rate of RM88 per month. If we were life members then we were allowed for 3 years.

On March 1st they decided to change the rule again, saying that the company will not honour this . This pledge was not made by them. 

Anyone knows what can be done.!

Being cheated again.

Judy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The company that took over Yogazone &#8217;s operation in Plaza Damas and Kepong is called Urbanyoga. We were told that as ex members /life time members we could enjoy the special rate of RM88 per month. If we were life members then we were allowed for 3 years.</p>
<p>On March 1st they decided to change the rule again, saying that the company will not honour this . This pledge was not made by them. </p>
<p>Anyone knows what can be done.!</p>
<p>Being cheated again.</p>
<p>Judy</p>
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		<title>By: K.C</title>
		<link>http://munfitnessblog.com/the-truth-behind-yoga-zones-problem-and-the-road-ahead-for-other-fitness-centers/#comment-9439</link>
		<dc:creator>K.C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 17:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Oriental Poet,

I just joined Core Fitness @ City Mall yesterday, everything seems ok there. The most they charge 1 year - RM1200, 12 month contract @ Rm150 - pay 1st month &amp; last 2 months + RM 90 = total of RM540 then monthly RM 150 until the 10th month then renew rate at RM150  and 1 month RM180 Non contract. 
I personally took the RM1200. Met their Boss Mr. C.K Tan, he&#039;s a owner of several business in KK. So i got the confident to join. 

Ethan n Danny is back to KK now. I think not much to worry, they even give free hand towel when sign up, is better than last time. I can&#039;t find any gym in kk provide more facilities in that good price in kk so i joined Core Fitness. You should go and check it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Oriental Poet,</p>
<p>I just joined Core Fitness @ City Mall yesterday, everything seems ok there. The most they charge 1 year &#8211; RM1200, 12 month contract @ Rm150 &#8211; pay 1st month &amp; last 2 months + RM 90 = total of RM540 then monthly RM 150 until the 10th month then renew rate at RM150  and 1 month RM180 Non contract.<br />
I personally took the RM1200. Met their Boss Mr. C.K Tan, he&#8217;s a owner of several business in KK. So i got the confident to join. </p>
<p>Ethan n Danny is back to KK now. I think not much to worry, they even give free hand towel when sign up, is better than last time. I can&#8217;t find any gym in kk provide more facilities in that good price in kk so i joined Core Fitness. You should go and check it out.</p>
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		<title>By: Oriental Poet</title>
		<link>http://munfitnessblog.com/the-truth-behind-yoga-zones-problem-and-the-road-ahead-for-other-fitness-centers/#comment-9309</link>
		<dc:creator>Oriental Poet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 14:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like Core Fitness is taking over Y Fitness here in KK. Not much details about it thus far. But the big question is &quot;Will it restore the confidence of gym goers here or suffer the same fate as Y Fitness??&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like Core Fitness is taking over Y Fitness here in KK. Not much details about it thus far. But the big question is &#8220;Will it restore the confidence of gym goers here or suffer the same fate as Y Fitness??&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
		<link>http://munfitnessblog.com/the-truth-behind-yoga-zones-problem-and-the-road-ahead-for-other-fitness-centers/#comment-9151</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 03:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Rain,
Many many thanks for the news article !
However I think that, although the 5 claimants have been given winning by the tribunal court, it doesn&#039;t mean that they have received the refund back from YOGAZone yet. Do take a look at the article below by another member:


http://www.malaysiabrides.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=8621&amp;st=30

&quot;YogaZone has been placed under receivership. When a company is in receivership, all debts incurred by the company prior to the appointment of the receiver and manager, will be paid in accordance to Section 191 and 292 of the Companies Act, 1965. i.e. the secure creditor will come first (i.e. debenture holder (bank(s)), then if there is any surplus, it will be used to pay the preferential creditors (e.g. employees, EPF, tax....) and IF there are still surpluses, then only the unsecured creditors will get paid (suppliers, and customers, like those who actually signed up and paid their membership fees). 
The gist of it is that if the secured creditor don&#039;t get paid in full, no one else gets paid. no matter where you go. or if you have a judgement.&quot;

Meanwhile, I would like to know any ex-YZ members out there who&#039;s actually received the refund... 

In any case, many thanks Rain for the sharing of article. Let&#039;s hope we have  more good news to come... 

- Ken</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Rain,<br />
Many many thanks for the news article !<br />
However I think that, although the 5 claimants have been given winning by the tribunal court, it doesn&#8217;t mean that they have received the refund back from YOGAZone yet. Do take a look at the article below by another member:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.malaysiabrides.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=8621&amp;st=30" rel="nofollow">http://www.malaysiabrides.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=8621&amp;st=30</a></p>
<p>&#8220;YogaZone has been placed under receivership. When a company is in receivership, all debts incurred by the company prior to the appointment of the receiver and manager, will be paid in accordance to Section 191 and 292 of the Companies Act, 1965. i.e. the secure creditor will come first (i.e. debenture holder (bank(s)), then if there is any surplus, it will be used to pay the preferential creditors (e.g. employees, EPF, tax&#8230;.) and IF there are still surpluses, then only the unsecured creditors will get paid (suppliers, and customers, like those who actually signed up and paid their membership fees).<br />
The gist of it is that if the secured creditor don&#8217;t get paid in full, no one else gets paid. no matter where you go. or if you have a judgement.&#8221;</p>
<p>Meanwhile, I would like to know any ex-YZ members out there who&#8217;s actually received the refund&#8230; </p>
<p>In any case, many thanks Rain for the sharing of article. Let&#8217;s hope we have  more good news to come&#8230; </p>
<p>- Ken</p>
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