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Tignarlegur 23rd, 2008 · 25 Athugasemd ·
 
 

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Malasa, Jga Zone var einn af the hfni sent essi nagdr Jga ra fir r bak a var setja upp vi Tjhin Kinn Kun r 2002.  Tjhin tskrifa eins og tlva verkfringur strala me a frimennska Hann htta hans sameiginlegur starf og flew til Indland til lra Jga Eftir a r, hann went til Hong Kong fyrir ur einn og helmingur r ur hann kveinn til rast the viskipti httuspil.

Hann opnari fyrstur Jga Zone Taman Desa, einn af the fastur bsetu- svi Kuala Lumpur.  Innan a r, the tala af flagsaiid hefur til ur 1,000.  Eftir 6 r, fljtur fram til r 2008, the me 12 trennsli, fyrirtki krafa essi a hefur ur 20,000 flagsaiid. a hefur jga tegund Torg Skai, Sraumbir Bukit Klingjandi hlj Klang, The Logsja, Kepong, Taman Desa, Framhaldssaga Krnubla, Malakt, ykja vnt um Torg og Sraumbir Puteri Puchong trennsli ess heilsulind mija ert stagreina The Logsja, Framhaldssaga Krnubla og Taman Desa ar sem hfni mija ( undir essi nafn af Y Hfni) ert Klang og Kota Kinabalu.  mean kveinn greinir ensku vital r 2006, Tjhin var metnaur og hann essi hann var aiming svisbundinn markaur og Indnesa var sennilega the fyrstur land essi hann vildi enja t hans viskipti.

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Tjhin vitki einn af the nskpunarmaur verlaun fr Malasubi Stagengill Fjrml Rherra r 2005

v miur, hlutur did ekki fara heilbrigur Eins og snemma eins og Jn 2008, flagsaiid hafa taka eftir essi margir venjulegur reyndur jga kennarastaa varlfur neitun langlfi kennsla there A mnuur seinna, margir fleiri jga tegund varlfur canceled.  essir kennarastaa varlfur frustrared.  Starfsflk varlfur demotivated.  Nmsmaur varlfur undrandi Viskiptavinur svikari too.  Taka eftir varlfur setja upp truflanir essi the trennsli vildi vera loka fyrir a vika fyrir a endurskipulagning fa. The trennsli Taman Desa var jafnvel skvetta me rauur mla.

Eftir the tilfelli varlfur hpunktur the fr mildum, the skkva, Tjhin, hefur neitun val en til tala out.  A lokum, the geta af ormur var opened.  The fyrirtki er djpur fjrhagslegur vandaml Kennarastaa hafa ekki been greiddur san Mega 2008.  Astaa varlfur illa halda.

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Fagur kurteisi frYogalover88

Tjhin lfaldi t til hitta the flagsaiid, starfsflk og fr mildum Hann umtal essi sumir kaupandi ert sning hugi til taka yfir the viskipti Hann essi hann var hrfandi lglegur ager aftur hans viskipti flag Og hann kallari of.

mean kveinn greinir ensku vital, Tjhin , “I vera segja G er a viskipti skapari, ekki a viskipti stjrnandi. Jga er a vitneskja combining list og vsindi, G hafa the list en G hugsa the vsindi vilja vera a vera handleika vi einhver better,” hann .

Hvenr G lesa essi stahfing, G var forvia me svo sem a fallega segja words.  knast kalla a stunguskfla a stunguskfla. Ef G varlfur the viskiptavinur hver pays fyrir the flagsaiid, G gera ekki agt hvort a er kveinn greinir ensku list ea kveinn greinir ensku vsindi, rttltur f the sent upp og hlaupandi aftur A ru leyti, koma aftur minn peningar.

geta benda the fingers.  geta cry.  En, Jga Zone goes brjstmynd n og hvar er the flagsaiidpeningar?

Jga Zone flagsaiid hafa taka frumkvi til setja upp a nefnd til hjlpa borga the kennarastaalaun vi selja vouchers.  eir hafa reyndur Flagsaiid vilja aldrei vilja Jga Zone til fara inn the holrsi.

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Jga Zone Malakt flagsaiid mr skilst) andlit af the trennsli til leita a fyrir the sannleikur.

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Bak r 2006, G met a vinur hver vita einn af the fyrirtki toppur stjrnun persnulega Minn vinur told mig essi Jga Zone hefur egar andlit alvarlegur fjrhagslegur vandaml ar a auki tmi stainn af hrfandi haldssamur maur og skynsamlegur akoma, the fyrirtki kveinn til taka str htta til setja upp fleiri centers.  eir rsir til selja flagsaiid eins og snemma eins og mgulegur til taka the reiuf upfront fr the viskiptavinur. Flagsaiid varlfur efla 3 til 6 mnuur ur allir nr staur var tilbinn til opinn Nstum srhver str keja hfni sent gera so.  Orstr Hfni hjartarskinn essi Geislavirkt frumefni Hfni hjartarskinn essi. Sannur Hfni hjartarskinn essi too.  Hvernig sem, a fyrirtki vera enn hafa a grarstr peningakistill af peningar fyrir reiuf rennsli til viurvri the viskipti lifandi Viurvri opnun fleiri og fleiri trennsli geta eini koma me svo far.  Hvaa er fleiri mikilvgur er the stjrnun geta setja upp a viskipti, en vera einnig vita hvernig til hlaupa a viskipti.

Jga Zone var kra milli $688 og $1,488 fyrir rbk flagsaiid og the vi flagsaiid var uppseldur milli $3,500 og $4,888. Ef Jga Zone raunverulega hefur 20,000 flagsaiid og lets’ assume 10 prsent af the flagsaiid hafa raunverulega greiddur fyrir the $4,888 vi pakki, vi ert talmynd ur $10 milljn af tap Lets’ ekki gleyma annar hver hafa greiddur upfront fyrir 1 ea 2- r pakki og enn hafa margir mnuur fleiri til fara og einnig 2 til 3 mnuur af laun af hvor starfsflk.

The banki halda fram til kra essir flagsaiidgreislukort hvenr the jga klbbur ert neitun langlfi operating.  Banki vilja enn kra, hvers vegnav einu sinni skipti inn greislukort, inn 1 ea 2- r flagsaiid gjald hefur egar greiddur til Jga Zone einn moli sum.  inn banki kra srhver mnuur fyrir the nstur 3 mnuur, 6 mnuur ea 1 r rast af the svo gesturhugi frjls” installment tmabil.

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Jga Zone er rugglega the slmur epli the hfni inaur. This atvikgjaldrot, hver flkja svo sem a grarstr magn af peningar fr 20,000 flagsaiid, hefur hera skorun fyrir ess annar jafningi the inaur. Margir flk vilja neitun langlfi traust hfni sent auveldlega aftur G g sjlfur hafa - buy vi flagsaiid fr Sannur Hpur ( sannur Hfni og Sannur Jga) Upphaflega, a myndaur til vera g kaup vi fjrfesting N, tlit hvaa hafa gerast til Jga Zone, G er ekki svo viss Minn traust lrttur fltur hefur dropateljari san . Nokku geta gerast Vi aldrei vita.

Malasa, golf ea tmstunda- klbbur inaur, hver hluti the lkur hugtak af getting flagsaiid fees fastur upfront, ert tilvera stjrna aeins Authorities vera a samykkja the flagsaiid fyrirtlun og the viskipti eignarrttur vera a borga viss grarstr magn af greiddur upp hfuborg Skilmlar og stand ert greinilega stand bklingur ea kynningarbklingur Vi gera ekki sj essi jga ea hfni inaur enn. r til vernda viskiptavinur, a er tmi til stjrna hfni ea jga klbbur undir the sami mlskn.

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Ef lta athugasemd vinstri minn staa undirSannur Hfni, Orstr Hfni, Geislavirkt frumefni Hfni eaHfni Fyrstur, margir viskiptavinur ran inn vandaml eftir eir innsigli the flagsaiid contracts.  eir geta ekki frjsa, flytja ea selja eirra memberships.  eir f kra fleiri en hvaa hafa been told.  eir ert neitun the tkifri til tala til the stjrnun G hafa viurkenndur margir e- pstur fr lesendahpur, vera fr Singapore, Tland ea Malasa, asking fyrir r hvernig til setningur eirra cases.  Ef ert the toppur stjrnun fr allir af the hfni sent G umtal yfir og ef enn agt ur inn drmtur viskiptavinur, G ess vegna beini til senda mig inn nafn og e- pstur og G munu gefa t hr. Lta inn viskiptavinur tala to you directly.  Hear their problem first hand.  Help them.

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25 responses so far ↓
  • Fei /Aug 23, 2008 at 4:14 pm

    I’m life time member of Yogazone.

    It’s not true that the yoga clubs are no longer operating, i just backed from the class in one yogaclub outlet. There are classes everyday. Yogazone do not declare bankruptcy till now, too early to define it’s bad apple in fitness industry.

  • karen /Aug 23, 2008 at 4:25 pm

    the gym i work out at..in bangsar village is getting quite bad too.. things dont work i.e the showers, sauna, steam room, gym equipment, bicycles etc. Even the class instructors mic dont function properly which is absurd! How hard is it to get proper mic?
    and last week i saw a notice stating that the operation hours is now only until 10pm. when i signed up the guarantee was 6am to 12midnight every weekday…yet they still charge the same fees.

    lets hope this one doesnt go belly up like the others.

  • Yoga Lover /Aug 23, 2008 at 4:28 pm

    A nice article to reveal the truth of Yoga Zone’s financial crisis. The founder (TJ) has spoilt the good name of Yoga Zone and caused it became the bad apple in fitness industry.

    It is true that a lot of people lost confidence or no longer trust easily in the fitness centers. I considered myself lucky as yet to sign up the life time member. I lost RM1,588 membership which was just renewed 2 months ago.

    Agreed that many customers ran into problems after signing the membership contracts. I have also signed up a year membership with California Fitness early this year due to a good corporate rate been offered to our company. However, was being approached and convinced that it was a need to sign up the personal training package when I activated my membership. As a result, I paid additional RM1,500+ for a 12 sessions personal training. Guess what I got? My trainer always not turning up since the 2nd session with last minute sms with the reasons overslept, late caught in the traffic jam, last minute appoitment and etc. I suppose to complete the training within 3 months with once a week as planned. But have dragged till now for 5 months and yet to finish and not meeting expected result due to inconsistent training. I tried to request for refund or change of trainer but was told not allowed and no way I can complain to the management. Too bad…. This will be my good experience and will never sign up any personal training with California Fitness.

  • Yoga Lover /Aug 23, 2008 at 5:09 pm

    Hi Fei,

    The YZ outlets will be closed tomorrow and no idea whether it will be continued until the meeting on Mon. I went to the Cheras Plaza outlet this noon and saw that the store room was opened but all the gymballs, air pump and straps are gone and some of the mats in the studios also been taken. Computer also disappeared (no idea where it gone). If the receiver has the intention to continue, they should keep or look after all these equipments as it is part of the company properties/assets. Otherwise, they will have to spend some money on it when re-open.

    I tried to be positive and really hoping for good news. But in reality, this is the fact we have to face. Found some of YZ’s teachers already start teaching at these yoga centers. Will update few more later as just went for another few more yoga centers at Kuchai Lama this afternoon. Have a nice weekend and awaiting good news from the receiver next week.

  • Fei /Aug 23, 2008 at 7:58 pm

    Hi Yoga Lover,

    Let’s wait and see, we should know the outcome after the Monday afternoon meeting.

    I know you’ve been running around recently for garner all these info, I really appreciate all info you given.

  • Rain /Aug 23, 2008 at 9:31 pm

    Meaning there will be no classes tomorrow? How about Monday?
    I do wish that classes will go on…..

  • Fei /Aug 23, 2008 at 9:50 pm

    Hi Rain,

    There are classes tomorrow (24 Aug 2008). You can check it out from the website timetable.

  • Tom Parker /Aug 23, 2008 at 10:06 pm

    Wow. That’s terrible. I’m so glad I have never exerienced something like this at a gym I have been a member of. However, I have never been a member of a gym chain just the local council supported gym and my university gym. Maybe that is why.

  • Yoga Lover /Aug 24, 2008 at 8:03 am

    Hi Rain,

    Sorry for wrong information, the classes are on today @ 9:30am and 10:45am at all outlets except Sri Petaling and The Weld. Please check from Yoga Zone’s website http:/www.yogazone.com.my/timetable.php/

    Hi Fei,

    Thanks for the correction and glad to see you here and also at yogalover88.

  • Rain /Aug 25, 2008 at 9:05 am

    Hi Yoga Lover,

    Yes, I went to Tmn Desa’s Sunday 9:30am class. However this morning I went to the 7am class, there was no one to open the studio for us, all the students and teacher were left standing outside….sad

  • Yoga Lover /Aug 25, 2008 at 10:20 pm

    Hi Rain,

    Sorry to hear that nobody opened the outlet for classes this morning. In fact, the relevant party aware of this matter and they are trying their best to coordinate it.

  • Rain /Aug 26, 2008 at 9:47 am

    Hi Yoga Lover,

    No issues, as I know that YZG is struggling to survive through this trouble time although for all of us to come to this point is rather sad. However I am worried if Yoga Zone will ever make it. Do you know what is the outcome after the 10 days Receivership? Will Yoga Zone operations continue? Or is everything is still in the air like the past few months.

    Do hope that things will work out, but for my health sake I think I still need to ensure that my workout is not continuously interrupted.

  • Yoga Lover /Aug 26, 2008 at 1:53 pm

    Hi Rain,

    There are some information about other yoga studios in Cheas and Kucai Entrepreneur Park for reference in case YZ really not to continue….

    In fact, nothing much from the meeting yesterday as it was mainly discuss about the teachers and staffs’ outstanding salaries, epf, socso and income tax matters. However, there will be another meeting next week and hope to hear good news.

    Please continue your yoga practice no matter what happened to YZ as we know it nenefits to our health. Cheers ^-^

  • Rain /Aug 26, 2008 at 5:47 pm

    Hi Yoga Lover,

    I am looking, Cheras is too far for me. Kuchai Entrepreneur Park have a few but none of them offer 7am classes, I prefer morning classes to get my workout out of the way then head to work. Also at KEP, in the evening the area is quite noisy as cars are parked unruly over there causing congestion and lots of honking it will be hard to concentrate with all the distraction.

    I have only found 1 place that offer 7am classes close by, that is Myoga however morning classes are usually Hot class with one or two Basic Pilates during the week….at the moment, I cannot find a yoga center that could give the variety of classes like Yoga Zone (especially the morning classes)…

  • foongpc /Aug 27, 2008 at 12:08 pm

    Have not experienced anything like this at the gym I frequent, thank God. But I think the possibility of this happening to any fitness centres is very real, even established ones. So I guess the best way not to become a victim is:
    1. Do not pay for lifetime memberships. Pay the monthly fees only.
    2. Join fitness centres of international brand, ie. originated from overseas and which have many branches worldwide and with good track record.

  • dpegasus /Aug 27, 2008 at 2:13 pm

    Hi Yoga Lover,
    I also face the same problem with my Personal Trainer. Always late and giving all kinds of excuses not showing up for my training. Most important is the attitude she gives like don’t care about my training program, which really pisses me off. Luckily I only signup for 4 session, sayonara to her now I will not signup PT anymore. This is at California Fitness btw.

  • Rain /Aug 27, 2008 at 9:52 pm

    dpegasus, totally understand how that feels, I was a member of California Fitness before and yes I signed up for their Personal Training sessions….that is why now though Myoga is my closest Yoga place, I’m still thinking and thinking since Myoga and California Fitness are sister company. Since there is no PT sessions by Myoga its not that bad???

  • Tony /Aug 29, 2008 at 12:11 pm

    Is there anything we as cheated members can do to recover our money paid upfront? How can we allow conmen like this TJ fellow to go unpunished. Y Fitness was still selling membership and life membership 1 day before closing shop in Klang branch. This is definately the work of a conman and we must not let him go easily. Is there someone who can shed some light into this and help us recover our hard earned money?

  • Suhana /Aug 29, 2008 at 4:23 pm

    I actually renewed my membership for another year a few months ago (i think in may)…and from what i have been reading, they have been going through some problems at this time already?!

    but because of work commitments, i couldn’t “activate” it yet….

    but since then, i have been paying every month. what is going to happen to the remaining months???

    is there a way we can get a refund for this?

    *sob*…

  • Rain /Sep 2, 2008 at 5:43 pm

    I heard that there will be a meeting held in Klang this Friday 5th Sept, where and what time I’m not sure. I do not know what is this meeting is about, as I know they have been holding lots of meeting with the teachers not once did they include us (their clients). I think they like to leave us in the dark, guessing or worse make us hope for miracle. I think the least they could do is give us a brief update, its a common courtesy.

    Frankly I have given up on Yoga Zone, I do not believe we could get our money back at all. However if the members would like to group together to highlight to higher authority I’m in.

    Don’t mean to be harsh but frankly I’m fed up.

  • dailymuscle /Sep 2, 2008 at 11:22 pm

    That is why IHRSA has such guidelines/standards like these (Standard #4):
    http:/www.healthclubs.com/choosing/body8.html/

    to protect us consumers from being taken for a ride by irresponsible health clubs. All these lifetime memberships/prepaid memberships are unfair to us. What happens if we have some sort of injury, or can’t exercise for a long period of time? Or what happens if we simply lose interest in exercising? What happens to our money then?

    This is how some of these clubs make money. They cash in on the fact that you’ll quit first before your membership expires. But unfortunately in this case, Yoga Zone quit first.

  • OnceAYoga /Sep 3, 2008 at 3:41 pm

    I have been waiting for you to post this article. Well as an ex employee and lucky me as i got my salary due to consistently bugging them for my unpaid salary.

    I am happy and of course sympathize with what the company is going through now. I am a little dissapointed when i found out there is not much control on budgeting and how they run the business..’ethically’. Im not gonna say much here on that. Not that they do something illegally. But its a good company that i have contributed and learn so much from my previous supervisor. I bet she have yet to get her salary.

    The main thing is the constant delay in payment. It could easily drag up to 6 months to my surprise. I’ve seen all the good employees leave one by one…leaving some departments totally empty… unpaid EPF i would just leave as it is. Countless complaint to the labor law offices, EPF departments just dont seem to be effective. No offense but i just dont seem to have faith in they way the gov departments handle such matters.

    Now in the hand of receivership, all existing employees probably only about 4 of them could not report to work, its the same as being unemployed or retrenched. We dont know the outcome yet till now. All i can say is ‘the amount owed’ is far more than you could ever imagine now.

  • Tony /Sep 4, 2008 at 9:37 am

    Can anyone tell me where and when is the meeting on Friday? We need to organize ourselves and take action on this type of con. Our government is not doing anything either…

  • nita /Sep 5, 2008 at 1:21 pm

    i got to know frm yoga zone zone kepong that need to pay aditional rm88 to be a member. i paid rm1188 to join y fitness brem mall but got to know the club is not opening. how can i get back my money????

  • OnceAYoga /Sep 5, 2008 at 1:53 pm

    Hi Nita/Tony,

    All has been done and further complained would not work much as upon High Court Order, the company is being assessed by receivership with no interruption. We just have to wait and see…i guess….

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