In Malaysia, Yoga Zone was one of the fitness centers that rode on Yoga craze few years back. It was set up by Tjhin Chee Kun in year 2002. Tjhin graduated as computer engineer in Australia with a scholarship. He quit his corporate job and flew to India to learn Yoga. After a year, he went to Hong Kong for about one and half years before he decided to go for the business venture.マレーシアでは、ヨガのゾーンの1つは、ヨガブームで、数年前に乗っていたフィットネスセンターとなった。これはTjhinチーゴン年2002年Tjhinオーストラリアでは、コンピュータエンジニアとして奨学金を卒業し設立された。彼は、企業の仕事を辞め、飛行前に、彼はビジネスのベンチャー企業のために行くことにしたヨガを学ぶためインドへ。1年後、彼は香港には約1年半の間に行った。
He opened first Yoga Zone in Taman Desa, one of the established residential areas in Kuala Lumpur. Within a year, the number of members has grown to about 1,000. After 6 years, fast forward to year 2008, the with 12 outlets, company claimed that it has about 20,000 members. It has yoga classes at Plaza Damas, Bandar Bukit Tinggi Klang, The Weld, Kepong, Taman Desa, Seri Petaling, Malacca, Cheras Plaza and Bandar Puteri Puchong outlet. Its spa centres are located at The Weld, Seri Petaling and Taman Desa whereas fitness centres (under that name of Y Fitness) are at Klang and Kota Kinabalu. During an interview in year 2006, Tjhin was ambituos and he said that he was aiming at regional market and Indonesia was probably the first country that he would expand his business.彼はタマンデサ、1つのクアラルンプールで、確立された住宅地の最初のヨガゾーン開設1年以内に、メンバーの数は約1000人へと成長しています。6年後、早送り、2008年には、12店舗で、同社は主張し溶接では、位置している約2万人のメンバーがいる。それはプラザダマ、バンダルブキTinggiクラン、溶接、Kepong、タマンデサ、セリペタリン、マラッカ、チェラプラザとバンダールプテリPuchongコンセントでヨガのクラスがあり、その温泉センターセリペタリンとタマンデサフィットネスセンター一方ﾝフィットネスのその名前（）の下でクランとコタキナバルでいる。2006年のインタビューで、Tjhin ambituosされ、彼は地域の市場を狙っていたとインドネシアはおそらく、最初の国だった彼が彼のビジネスを展開する。
Tjhin receiving one of the entrepreneur award from Malaysian Deputy Finance Minister in year 2005 Tjhin 1 2005年のマレーシアの副財務大臣からは、起業家賞を受け取る
Unfortunately, things did not go well. As early as June 2008, members have noticed that many regular experienced yoga instructors were no longer teaching there . A month later, many more yoga classes were canceled . Those instructors were frustrared. Staffs were demotivated. Students were puzzled. Customers felt cheated too. Notices were put up stating that the outlets would be closed for a week for a restructuring exercise. The outlet at Taman Desa was even splashed with red paint.残念ながら、うまく行きませんでした。として、2008年6月早ければ、メンバーは、 多くの定期的な経験豊富なヨガインストラクター 、 もはや教師がいたことに気づいた。ヶ月後に、 さらに多くのヨガのクラスをキャンセルされた 。これらのインストラクター。スタッフfrustraredされたdemotivatedていた。留学生困惑していた。お客様も。通知だまされては、コンセント1週間の改革運動のため閉鎖されると述べ、入れていると感じた。 タマンデサのコンセントにも赤いペンキをはねている。
After the cases were highlighted in the media, the founder, Tjhin, has no choice but to speak out. Finally, the can of worm was opened. The company is in deep financial problem. Instructors have not been paid since May 2008. Facilities were badly maintained.が開かれた例がメディアで強調表示され、創設者、Tjhinが、選択の余地が言うのを、最後にすることができますワームの会社の深い金融問題にされます。インストラクター2008年5月。設備されてから支払われていないひどいを維持した。
Pictures courtesy from 写真提供から Yogalover88 Yogalover88
Tjhin came out to meet the members, staffs and media. He mentioned that some buyers are showing interest to take over the business. He said that he was taking legal actions against his business partners. And he cried too. Tjhinメンバーは、スタッフやメディアを満たすために出てきた。彼は、いくつかの買い手は、事業を引き継ぐように関心を示して述べた。彼は、彼のビジネスパートナーに対して法的措置を取っていたと述べた。 そして 、 彼も叫んだ。
During an interview, Tjhin said, “I must say I am a business creator, not a business operator.インタビューの間、Tjhin、"私は事業者、事業者ではないと言わなければならないと述べた。 Yoga is a knowledge combining art and science, I have done the art but I think the science will have to be handled by someone better,” he said.ヨガの知識芸術と科学の組み合わせですが、私の芸術行っているが、私は科学を良く処理する必要があると思う"と述べた。
When I read that statement, I was amazed with such a nicely uttered words. Please call a spade a spade. If I were the customer who pays for the membership, I do not care whether it is an art or an science, just get the centers up and running again. Otherwise, return my money.ときは、その文を読むと、私がこのような素敵な言葉を口に驚いてくださいスペードスペードを呼び出す場合私は、会員の負担は、お客様が、私は気にしないかどうかは芸術や科学は、単に取得されセンターを設置し、実行して、再び、それ以外は私のお金を返す。
You can point the fingers. You can cry. But, Yoga Zone goes bust now and where is the members' money?あなたの指を指すことができます。あなたが泣くことができます。しかし、ヨガゾーン行く胸像今、どこで会員のお金ですか？
Yoga Zone members have taken initiative to set up a committee to help pay the instructors' salary by selling vouchers. They have tried. Members will never want Yoga Zone to go into the drain.ヨガゾーン会員券を販売して、講師の給与を支払うために委員会を設置するイニシアチブを取っている。彼らはしようとしている。メンバヨガゾーンのドレインに移動することはありません。
Yoga Zone Malacca members gathered in front of the outlet to seek for the truth.ヨガゾーンマラッカメンバーは、出口の前で真実を求めて集まった。
Back in year 2006, I met a friend who knows one of the company top management personally. My friend told me that Yoga Zone has already faced serious financial problems at that time. Instead of taking conservative and prudent approach, the company decided to take big risks to set up more centers. They started to sell membership as early as possible to take the cash upfront from the customers. Membership were promoted 3 to 6 months before any new place was ready to open. Almost every big chain fitness centers do so. Celebrity Fitness does that. California Fitness does that.先頭へ戻る2006年に、私は経営トップの個人的に1つの会社を知っている友人に会った。私の友人は、ヨガのゾーンはその時既に深刻な財政問題に直面している私に語った。代わりに保守的かつ慎重なアプローチを取って、会社を取ることを決めた大きなリスクのセンターをセットアップする彼らは 、 顧客から会員の現金前払いをすることは早ければ 6ヶ月に任意の新しい場所の前に3昇進したとして会員の販売を開始オープンする準備ができている。ほぼすべての大手チェーンのフィットネスクラブを行うように。有名人のフィットネスセンターは、カリフォルニア州フィットしない場合は、。 True Fitness does that too. However, a company must still have a huge coffer of money for cash flow to keep the business alive . Keep opening more and more outlets can only bring you so far. What is more important is the management . You can set up a business, but you must also know how to run a business.真のフィットネスセンターは、あまりにもありません。しかし、 同社は依然として 、 キャッシュフローのためのお金のビジネスが生き続けるためには膨大な財源が必要です 。より多くの出店てくださいそこまでしか連れて来ることが何より重要なことは 、 管理されます 。することができますビジネスを始めるが、またどのようにビジネスを実行するため知っている必要があります。
Yoga Zone was charging between $688 and $1,488 for annual membership and the lifetime membership was sold between $3,500 and $4,888.ヨガゾーン688ドルと1488ドルの年間会員と終身会員の間で3500ドルと4888ドルの間に販売された充電されました。 If Yoga Zone really has 20,000 members and let's assume 10 percent of the members have actually paid for the $4,888 lifetime package, we are talking about $10 million of loss . Let's not forget others who have paid upfront for 1 or 2-year package and still have many months more to go and also 2 to 3 months of salary of each staff.もしヨガゾーンは本当に20000のメンバーがいるとのメンバーの10％と仮定、実際には4888ドルの寿命のパッケージは、1000万ドルの損失について話しているのを支払っている。レッツは1または2年間のパッケージと静止画の前払いして他のことを忘れないで何ヶ月も行って、各スタッフの給与も2〜3ヵ月以上している。
The banks continue to charge these members' credit card when the yoga clubs are no longer operating. Banks will still charge, why? Because once you swapped your credit card, your 1 or 2-year membership fee has already paid to Yoga Zone in one lump sum. Your bank then charges you every month for the next 3 months, 6 months or 1 year depending on the so called “interest free” installment period. 銀行の場合は、ヨガのクラブはもはや動作している、銀行は、依然として料は 、 これらのメンバーのクレジットカードに請求を続けて 、なぜかというと一度あなたの1または2年間の会費は既にヨガゾーンに一回で払ってお客様のクレジットカードを交換一括払い。あなたの銀行の場合、次の3ヶ月、6ヶ月または1年間のいわゆる"無利子"割賦期間と呼ばれるに応じて毎月の料金。
Yoga Zone is indeed the bad apple in the fitness industry. This incident bankruptcy , which involves such a huge amount of money from 20,000 members, has given tougher challenge for its other peers in the industry. ヨガゾーン確かに 、 フィットネス業界では腐ったリンゴです。は20,000メンバーからのお金のような膨大な量を含むこの事件倒産は、業界内の他のピアのための厳しい挑戦与えている。 Many people will no longer trust fitness centers easily anymore. I myself have bought lifetime membership from True Group (True Fitness and True Yoga). Initially, it supposed to be a good lifetime investment. Now, looking at what have happened to Yoga Zone, I am not so sure. My confidence level has dropped since then .多くの人々はもはやすることを信頼フィットネスセンターを簡単にはもう私自身、真のグループ（真のフィットネスと真のヨガ）から終身会員権を購入した当初、それは良い期間投資をすることになって、今、何ヨガゾーンに起きているを見て、私にはそうではない。私の信頼水準で、その後減少している。 Anything can happen. We never know.何が起こることができます。私たちは知っていることはない。
In Malaysia, golf or recreational club industry, which shares the similar concept of getting membership fees settled upfront, are being regulated strictly. Authorities have to approve the membership scheme and the business owners have to pay certain huge amount of paid up capital. Terms and conditions are clearly stated in leaflet or prospectus. We do not see that in yoga or fitness industry yet. In order to protect customers, it is time to regulate fitness or yoga clubs under the same laws.マレーシアでは、会費を得ることのような概念を共有ゴルフやレジャークラブ業界、先行投資は、厳密に規制されている和解した。当局は、会員制度やビジネスの所有者を承認する必要があります資本金を支払ったの特定の巨大な金額を支払う必要があります。利用規約条件は明らかにパンフレットや目論見書に記載されています。 私たちは 、 ヨガやフィットネス業界はまだありません。ために、顧客を保護するため、それと同じ法律の下にクラブのフィットネスやヨガを調節する時が表示されません 。
If you look at comments left at my posts under場合は、コメントを見て私の記事の下を左折 True Fitness 真のフィットネス , 、 Celebrity Fitness 有名人のフィットネス , 、 California Fitness カリフォルニアフィットネス orまたは Fitness First フィットネスファースト , many customers ran into problems after they signed the membership contracts. They cannot freeze, transfer or sell their memberships. They get charged more than what have been told. They are denied the chance to talk to the management. I have received many e-mails from readers, be them from Singapore, Thailand or Malaysia, asking for advice how to resolve their cases. If you are the top management from any of the fitness centers I mentioned above and if you still care about your valuable customers, I therefore request you to send me your name and e-mail and I shall publish them here. Let your customers talk to you directly. Hear their problem first hand. Help them.後に、会員契約を結んで、多くの顧客の問題に遭遇した。彼らは、凍結することはできません譲渡または販売のメンバシップ。彼らは何を言われている金額以上の請求を取得します。彼らは、チャンスの管理に話を拒否されます。私は多くのメールを受信して、読者からのメールを、シンガポール、タイやマレーシアから、どのように例を解決するためのアドバイスを求めてそれらをされる場合は 、 経営トップは私が上で言及する場合 、 まだあなたの貴重な顧客について、私はその要求をケアフィットネスセンターからのアールあなたの名前や電子メール 、 私はここに公表するものと私に送信します。あなたの顧客に直接話をしよう。最初に手たちの問題を聞く。彼らを支えよう。
If you have problems with any fitness centres, please leave your comment here.場合は、ここにあなたのコメントを残し任意のフィットネスセンターに問題がある。
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Fei // 飛 / / Aug 23, 2008 at 4:14 PM 2008年8月23日16:14時
I'm life time member of Yogazone.私Yogazoneの生活時間の会員です。
It's not true that the yoga clubs are no longer operating, i just backed from the class in one yogaclub outlet.これは、ヨガのクラブはもはや動作、私だけでは、クラスから1 yogaclubコンセントにバックアップされて真実ではない。 There are classes everyday.あるクラスの毎日です。 Yogazone do not declare bankruptcy till now, too early to define it's bad apple in fitness industry. Yogazone今までは破産を宣言しない場合は、あまりにもフィットネス産業での不良リンゴを定義するには早。
karen // カレン / / Aug 23, 2008 at 4:25 PM 2008年8月23日16:25時
the gym i work out at..in bangsar village is getting quite bad too..ジム私はバンサー村で..でかなり悪いも..なっているから仕事 things dont work ie the showers, sauna, steam room, gym equipment, bicycles etc. Even the class instructors mic dont function properly which is absurd!物事いけない仕事すなわち、シャワー、サウナ、スチームルーム、ジム設備、自転車などでも一流のインストラクターのマイクいけない機能が正しくは、ばかげている！ How hard is it to get proper mic?どんなに大変か、適切なマイクを得るためですか？
and last week i saw a notice stating that the operation hours is now only until 10pm.先週にiは注意して運転時間は今までの間のみ22時述べていた。 when i signed up the guarantee was 6am to 12midnight every weekday…yet they still charge the same fees.私が保証登録毎日6am〜12midnight平日... ...しかし、彼らは今でも同じ料金を請求された。
lets hope this one doesnt go belly up like the others.この1 doesn't他の人のように腹を開くことを願ってすることができます。
Yoga Lover ヨガの恋人 // / / Aug 23, 2008 at 4:28 PM 2008年8月23日16:28時
A nice article to reveal the truth of Yoga Zone's financial crisis.良い記事ヨガゾーンの金融危機の真実を明らかにする。 The founder (TJ) has spoilt the good name of Yoga Zone and caused it became the bad apple in fitness industry.ファウンダー（TJ）のヨガゾーンの良い名前を台無しにして、それフィットネス業界では腐ったリンゴになったが発生しました。
It is true that a lot of people lost confidence or no longer trust easily in the fitness centers.これは、多くの人々やフィットネスセンターではもはや信頼を簡単に信頼を失ってはtrueです。 I considered myself lucky as yet to sign up the life time member.私自身はまだライフタイムのメンバーにサインアップ幸運に検討した。 I lost RM1,588 membership which was just renewed 2 months ago.私マレーシアリンギッドは、わずか2ヶ月前に改装された588の会員を失った。
Agreed that many customers ran into problems after signing the membership contracts.は、多くの顧客の問題に会員契約を締結後に走った合意。 I have also signed up a year membership with California Fitness early this year due to a good corporate rate been offered to our company.私も今年初めに、良き企業を評価するため、当社に提供されてカリフォルニアフィットネスセンターでは年間会員登録している。 However, was being approached and convinced that it was a need to sign up the personal training package when I activated my membership.ただし、接近されていたし、それが必要とするパーソナルトレーニングのパッケージが私の会員がアクティブにサインアップすると確信して。 As a result, I paid additional RM1,500+ for a 12 sessions personal training.結果として、私は、追加マレーシアリンギッド500支払わ+ 12回のパーソナルトレーニング。 Guess what I got?何だと思う？ My trainer always not turning up since the 2nd session with last minute sms with the reasons overslept, late caught in the traffic jam, last minute appoitment and etc. I suppose to complete the training within 3 months with once a week as planned.私のトレーナーは、常に理由は、後半に渋滞の中で、および最後の分appoitmentキャッチ寝坊との土壇場のSMSとの第2セッション以降に向かっていないなど私は3ヶ月以内の訓練を完了するために週に1回は予定通りとします。 But have dragged till now for 5 months and yet to finish and not meeting expected result due to inconsistent training.しかし、5ヶ月今のところ、まだ、完了までに予想される結果一貫性のないトレーニングのために満たしていないまでドラッグしている。 I tried to request for refund or change of trainer but was told not allowed and no way I can complain to the management.私は、返金またはトレーナーの変更を請求することを試みたが、私は経営に文句を言うことがないように許可されていないと言われた。 Too bad….残念...。 This will be my good experience and will never sign up any personal training with California Fitness.これは私の良い経験となり、カリフォルニアフィットネスセンターでは、個人のトレーニングにサインアップすることはありません。
Yoga Lover ヨガの恋人 // / / Aug 23, 2008 at 5:09 PM 2008年8月23日17:09時
Hi Fei,こんにちは飛
The YZ outlets will be closed tomorrow and no idea whether it will be continued until the meeting on Mon. YZコンセント明日はないというかどうかは月曜の会議まで継続される閉じられます。 I went to the Cheras Plaza outlet this noon and saw that the store room was opened but all the gymballs, air pump and straps are gone and some of the mats in the studios also been taken.私は、チェラプラザコンセントこの日の昼間に行ったが、格納室が開設されたすべてのgymballs、エアポンプとストラップとなっていたかも撮影されてスタジオでマットです。 Computer also disappeared (no idea where it gone).コンピュータでも（知らない場所へ行ってしまった）消えてしまった。 If the receiver has the intention to continue, they should keep or look after all these equipments as it is part of the company properties/assets.場合は、受信機、それらを維持する必要があります続行するか、見て意図しているすべての機器の後としては、同社のプロパティの一部は、/資産。 Otherwise, they will have to spend some money on it when re-open.そうでなければ、彼らはそれをするときに再オープンいくつかのお金を使う必要があります。
I tried to be positive and really hoping for good news.私はプラスにしようとしましたが本当に良いニュースを目指している。 But in reality, this is the fact we have to face.しかし現実には、これは我々が直面しているという事実です。 Found some of YZ's teachers already start teaching at these yoga centers.いくつかのYZの教師陣は、すでにこれらのヨガセンターで教え始めるが見つかりました。 Will update few more later as just went for another few more yoga centers at Kuchai Lama this afternoon.後で、単にKuchaiラマ14世は、別のいくつかのヨガセンターの午後に行ったいくつか更新されます。 Have a nice weekend and awaiting good news from the receiver next week.いい週末にしたことがありますし、受信者からの良いニュースを待って、来週。
Fei // 飛 / / Aug 23, 2008 at 7:58 PM 2008年8月23日19:58時
Hi Yoga Lover,こんにちはヨガの恋人、
Let's wait and see, we should know the outcome after the Monday afternoon meeting.のを待つとしましょう、我々は結果を知っている必要がある月曜日の午後の会議後。
I know you've been running around recently for garner all these info, I really appreciate all info you given.私は最近、これらすべての情報を集めるのを回避しているが知っている、私は本当にすべての情報に感謝したい。
Rain // 雨 / / Aug 23, 2008 at 9:31 PM 2008年8月23日21:31時
Meaning there will be no classes tomorrow?意味がないクラスは明日になりますか？ How about Monday?方法については月曜日？
I do wish that classes will go on…..クラスには行く... ..希望すれば
Fei // 飛 / / Aug 23, 2008 at 9:50 PM 2008年8月23日21:50時
Hi Rain,こんにちは雨、
There are classes tomorrow (24 Aug 2008).あるクラスの明日（2008年8月24日）です。 You can check it out from the website timetable.あなたのウェブサイト時刻表からそれをチェックアウトすることができます。
Tom Parker トムパーカー // / / Aug 23, 2008 at 10:06 PM 2008年8月23日22:06時
Wow.うわー。 That's terrible.それはひどい。 I'm so glad I have never exerienced something like this at a gym I have been a member of.私は私のメンバーにされているジムでは、このようなexerienced決して何かをしてくれてうれしい。 However, I have never been a member of a gym chain – just the local council supported gym and my university gym.しかし、私はジムチェーンのメンバーに行ったことがない-ちょうど地方議会は、私の大学のジムジムを支持した。 Maybe that is why.たぶんその理由です。
Yoga Lover ヨガの恋人 // / / Aug 24, 2008 at 8:03 AM 2008年8月24日8:03午前
Hi Rain,こんにちは雨、
Sorry for wrong information, the classes are on today @ 9:30am and 10:45am at all outlets except Sri Petaling and The Weld.間違った情報については申し訳ありませんが、クラスは本日9:30 @午前10時45分スリランカペタリンと溶接部を除くすべての店舗で午前です。 Please check from Yoga Zone's website –ヨガゾーンのWebサイトから確認してください- http://www.yogazone.com.my/timetable.php http://www.yogazone.com.my/timetable.php
Hi Fei,こんにちは飛
Thanks for the correction and glad to see you here and also at yogalover88.補正と喜んでいただきありがとうございますここもyogalover88でお会いする。
Rain // 雨 / / Aug 25, 2008 at 9:05 AM 2008年8月25日9：05時午前
Hi Yoga Lover,こんにちはヨガの恋人、
Yes, I went to Tmn Desa's Sunday 9:30am class.はい、私はTmnデサの日曜日午前9:30のクラスに行きました。 However this morning I went to the 7am class, there was no one to open the studio for us, all the students and teacher were left standing outside….sadしかし、今朝は午前7時のクラスに行っては、私たちのためのスタジオを開くことはありません一、すべての生徒と教師の外に立って残っていた... ...だった。悲しい
Yoga Lover ヨガの恋人 // / / Aug 25, 2008 at 10:20 PM 2008年8月25日22:20時
Hi Rain,こんにちは雨、
Sorry to hear that nobody opened the outlet for classes this morning.誰も、この午前の授業のためのコンセントを開いたを聞いて申し訳ありません。 In fact, the relevant party aware of this matter and they are trying their best to coordinate it.実際には、関係当事者は、この問題を認識して、彼らはそれを調整するために最善を尽くしています。
Rain // 雨 / / Aug 26, 2008 at 9:47 AM 2008年8月26日9:47午前
Hi Yoga Lover,こんにちはヨガの恋人、
No issues, as I know that YZG is struggling to survive through this trouble time although for all of us to come to this point is rather sad.何の問題として、私はYZGただし、この問題の時間を介してすべての私たちのため、この時点に来て生き残るために苦労しているかではなく悲しいです。 However I am worried if Yoga Zone will ever make it.もしヨガゾーンそんなことになるしかし、私が心配です。 Do you know what is the outcome after the 10 days Receivership?何を10日間の法廷の後の結果をご存知ですか？ Will Yoga Zone operations continue?ウィルヨガゾーンの操作を続けますか？ Or is everything is still in the air like the past few months.またはすべてがまだ空気中では、過去数ヶ月のようです。
Do hope that things will work out, but for my health sake – I think I still need to ensure that my workout is not continuously interrupted.しかし、期待して物事がうまくなるか私の健康ために-私は私はまだ、私のワークアウトを継続的に中断されていないことを確認する必要があると思う。
Yoga Lover ヨガの恋人 // / / Aug 26, 2008 at 1:53 PM 2008年8月26日13:53時
Hi Rain,こんにちは雨、
There are some information about other yoga studios in Cheas and Kucai Entrepreneur Park for reference in case YZ really not to continue….が参考のためにCheasとKucai起業家公園内の他のヨガスタジオについてのいくつかの情報を継続する場合、YZで実際にされていません...。
In fact, nothing much from the meeting yesterday as it was mainly discuss about the teachers and staffs' outstanding salaries, epf, socso and income tax matters.実際には会議から、大したことはない、昨日とは主に教師やスタッフ'未払い給与、厚生年金基金、socsoと所得税の問題について議論されたします。 However, there will be another meeting next week and hope to hear good news.しかし、別の会合を来週になると良いニュースを聞いてほしい。
Please continue your yoga practice no matter what happened to YZ as we know it nenefits to our health.あなたのヨガの練習を知ってのとおり何YZに起こったに関係なく、引き続き、私たちの健康にnenefits。 Cheers ^-^応援^ - ^
Rain // 雨 / / Aug 26, 2008 at 5:47 PM 2008年8月26日17:47時
Hi Yoga Lover,こんにちはヨガの恋人、
I am looking, Cheras is too far for me.私は探しています、チェラすぎる私です。 Kuchai Entrepreneur Park have a few but none of them offer 7am classes, I prefer morning classes to get my workout out of the way then head to work. Kuchai起業家朴智星はいくつかが、それらのいずれも午前7時のクラスを提供し、私は方法のその後、私のワークアウトを取得する、仕事へ向かう朝のクラスを希望している。 Also at KEP, in the evening the area is quite noisy as cars are parked unruly over there causing congestion and lots of honking – it will be hard to concentrate with all the distraction.また、経総では、夕方には、エリアはかなり騒々しい車を止めているあそこの渋滞の原因と手に負えないですが鳴るたくさんの-それは、すべての邪魔に集中することは難しいだろう。
I have only found 1 place that offer 7am classes close by, that is Myoga however morning classes are usually Hot class with one or two Basic Pilates during the week….at the moment, I cannot find a yoga center that could give the variety of classes like Yoga Zone (especially the morning classes)…私だけでは提供して午前7時クラスの近くには、ミョウガしかし、午前の授業は通常、1つまたは2つの基本的なピラティス今週中に...。現時点では、私はそれを様々な与えることができるヨガセンターを見つけることができないとホットクラスですが1位を発見したヨガゾーン（特に午前中のクラス）のようなクラス...
foongpc foongpc // / / Aug 27, 2008 at 12:08 PM 2008年8月27日12:08時
Have not experienced anything like this at the gym I frequent, thank God.私は頻繁にジムでは、このようなことを経験していないことが、神に感謝します。 But I think the possibility of this happening to any fitness centres is very real, even established ones.しかし、私はこのすべてのフィットネスセンターに起きている可能性はとてもリアルでも、ものを確立だと思う。 So I guess the best way not to become a victim is:だから私は、被害者になるための最善の方法で推測されます：
1. 1。 Do not pay for lifetime memberships.終身会員の支払いしないでください。 Pay the monthly fees only.唯一の毎月の会費を支払います。
2. 2。 Join fitness centres of international brand, ie.国際的なブランド、すなわち、フィットネスセンターが参加。 originated from overseas and which have many branches worldwide and with good track record.海外からの発信とは、多くの支店を世界的に良い実績としている。
dpegasus // dpegasus / / Aug 27, 2008 at 2:13 PM 2008年8月27日14:13時
Hi Yoga Lover,こんにちはヨガの恋人、
I also face the same problem with my Personal Trainer.私も自分のパーソナルトレーナーと同じ問題に直面する。 Always late and giving all kinds of excuses not showing up for my training.いつも遅刻と言い訳のすべての種類の私の訓練用に表示されないのを与える。 Most important is the attitude she gives like don't care about my training program, which really pisses me off.のように実際に私をオフにおしっこ私のトレーニングプログラムは、気にしない最も重要な彼女を与える姿勢です。 Luckily I only signup for 4 session, sayonara to her now I will not signup PT anymore.幸いにも私は4セッションでは、彼女の今はもうポルトガル購読することはなく、サヨナラのサイン。 This is at California Fitness btw.このカリフォルニアフィットネスところでです。
Rain // 雨 / / Aug 27, 2008 at 9:52 PM 2008年8月27日21:52時
dpegasus, totally understand how that feels, I was a member of California Fitness before and yes I signed up for their Personal Training sessions….that is why now though Myoga is my closest Yoga place, I'm still thinking and thinking since Myoga and California Fitness are sister company. 、私はまだ考え中ですdpegasus、完全にどのように感じて理解し、私の前にカリフォルニアフィットネスのメンバーで、はい私たちのパーソナルトレーニングセッションのために署名された...。は、なぜ、今もミョウガ私の最も近いヨガ場所ですとミョウガ以来思考カリフォルニアフィットネスの妹ている会社。 Since there is no PT sessions by Myoga – its not that bad???があるのでミョウガではありませんポルトガルセッションです-そのことは悪くない？？？
Tony // トニー / / Aug 29, 2008 at 12:11 PM 2008年8月29日12:11時
Is there anything we as cheated members can do to recover our money paid upfront?我々として会員が当社の資金を回収する前払いを行うことができますだまさはありますか？ How can we allow conmen like this TJ fellow to go unpunished.どうやってできるようにすることができます罰を免れるには、この一眼レフカメラの仲間のようなconmen。 Y Fitness was still selling membership and life membership 1 day before closing shop in Klang branch. Ýフィットネスセンター、まだ分岐クランに店を閉じる前に、会員や生活会員1日販売していた。 This is definately the work of a conman and we must not let him go easily.これは間違いなく、conmanの仕事であり、我々は彼を簡単に移動させてあります。 Is there someone who can shed some light into this and help us recover our hard earned money?人は、このにいくつかの光を当てることができる私たちの苦労して稼いだお金を回復するために誰かありますか？
Suhana // Suhana / / Aug 29, 2008 at 4:23 PM 2008年8月29日16:23時
I actually renewed my membership for another year a few months ago (i think in may)…and from what i have been reading, they have been going through some problems at this time already?!私は実際にもう1年数か月前に自分のメンバーシップを更新（iの場合があります）と思う... ...私、何を読んされているから、彼らは、この時間ですでにいくつかの問題を通過されている！？
but because of work commitments, i couldn't “activate” it yet….仕事の約束だが、私がしない""アクティブにはまだ...。
but since then, i have been paying every month.しかし、それ以来、私は毎月料金を支払っている。 what is going to happen to the remaining months???何が残りの数カ月間はどうするつもりですか？？
is there a way we can get a refund for this?が、このための払い戻しを受けることができる方法ですか？
*sob*… *泣く* ...
Rain // 雨 / / Sep 2, 2008 at 5:43 PM 2008年9月2日17:43時
I heard that there will be a meeting held in Klang this Friday 5th Sept, where and what time I'm not sure.私は会議を今週の金曜日9月5日、クランで開催されると聞きましたが、私はよく分からない何時に。 I do not know what is this meeting is about, as I know they have been holding lots of meeting with the teachers not once did they include us (their clients).私がこの会議であるかを知らないかについて、私たちの先生は一度彼らは私たち（彼らのクライアント）が含まれていたとの会談をたくさん保持されている知っている。 I think they like to leave us in the dark, guessing or worse make us hope for miracle.彼らは暗闇の中で私たちを残して、推測のようにか悪いかと思う私たちの奇跡への希望を確認します。 I think the least they could do is give us a brief update, its a common courtesy.私は、彼らは私たちを簡単に更新すると、その一般的な礼儀を与えるだけですが、少なくともだと思う。
Frankly I have given up on Yoga Zone, I do not believe we could get our money back at all.率直に言って私はヨガのゾーンをあきらめて、私たちはすべてバックアップは当社のお金を得ることとは思わない。 However if the members would like to group together to highlight to higher authority – I'm in.しかし、もし、メンバー希望するグループを一緒に高い権威を強調する-私インチだ
Don't mean to be harsh but frankly I'm fed up.過酷なことは意味しないで率直に言ってうんざりしている。
dailymuscle dailymuscle // / / Sep 2, 2008 at 11:22 PM 2008年9月2日23:22時
That is why IHRSA has such guidelines/standards like these (Standard #4):だからこそIHRSAこうしたガイドラインです/これらの（標準＃4）のような標準：
http://www.healthclubs.com/choosing/body8.html http://www.healthclubs.com/choosing/body8.html
to protect us consumers from being taken for a ride by irresponsible health clubs.私たちから消費者を保護するために、無責任なヘルスクラブが乗るために取られて。 All these lifetime memberships/prepaid memberships are unfair to us.これらのすべての期間会員/プリペイド会員たちに不当です。 What happens if we have some sort of injury, or can't exercise for a long period of time?できれば、または傷害のいくつかの並べ替えている時間の長い期間を行使することはできませんどうなりますか？ Or what happens if we simply lose interest in exercising?場合は、単に運動に関心を失ったり、何が起こるか？ What happens to our money then?私たちのお金にしてどうなりますか？
This is how some of these clubs make money.この方法は、これらのクラブのお金です。 They cash in on the fact that you'll quit first before your membership expires.実際にする前に、会員有効期限は、まず最初に終了します上で彼らは現金。 But unfortunately in this case, Yoga Zone quit first.しかし、この場合、残念なことに、ヨガゾーン最初に終了します。
OnceAYoga // OnceAYoga / / Sep 3, 2008 at 3:41 PM 2008年9月3日15:41時
I have been waiting for you to post this article.あなたがこの記事を投稿する私を待っている。 Well as an ex employee and lucky me as i got my salary due to consistently bugging them for my unpaid salary.だけでなく、元従業員と私、私の給料私の未払い給料を一貫して盗聴をするためだとして本当に幸運でした。
I am happy and of course sympathize with what the company is going through now.私は満足しているコースの同社は現在、どのように入っていると共感する。 I am a little dissapointed when i found out there is not much control on budgeting and how they run the business..'ethically'.私は小さい頃、私はそこの予算についてはあまり制御とどのようにビジネス..'が実行されるがdissapointed午前倫理的に'。 Im not gonna say much here on that.イムもここでは意見を言うつもりはない。 Not that they do something illegally.と言って違法な何か。 But its a good company that i have contributed and learn so much from my previous supervisor.しかし、その良い会社は、i貢献しているとそんなに私の以前の上司から学ぶ。 I bet she have yet to get her salary.私は彼女がまだ彼女の給料をもらう必要があります賭ける賭け方。
The main thing is the constant delay in payment.主なものの支払いに一定の遅延時間です。 It could easily drag up to 6 months to my surprise.簡単に6ヶ月私の驚きにまでドラッグすることができます。 I've seen all the good employees leave one by one…leaving some departments totally empty… unpaid EPF – i would just leave as it is.私はすべての良い従業員を見てきました1 ...いくつかの部門が完全に空...未払い厚生年金基金-私はちょうどそれにしておくと残して1つを残している。 Countless complaint to the labor law offices, EPF departments just dont seem to be effective.労働者の法律事務所に数え切れないほどの苦情、厚生年金基金部門はいけない効果があるようだ。 No offense but i just dont seem to have faith in they way the gov departments handle such matters.悪気はないしかし、私はいけない、それらの方法は、県知事の部署などの事項を処理する信仰をもっているようだ。
Now in the hand of receivership, all existing employees probably only about 4 of them could not report to work, its the same as being unemployed or retrenched.管財人の手が今では、既存のすべての従業員はおそらく唯一の約4彼らの仕事には、その同じ失業されたり削減されたレポートはできませんでした。 We dont know the outcome yet till now.我々はまだ今までの結果を知らない。 All i can say is 'the amount owed' is far more than you could ever imagine now.すべてのi言うことができる'量'に支払うべきところを今まで以上にすぐに想像できるのです。
Tony // トニー / / Sep 4, 2008 at 9:37 AM 2008年9月4日9:37 AMの
Can anyone tell me where and when is the meeting on Friday?誰も教えてくれるところを見ると、金曜日の会議ですか？ We need to organize ourselves and take action on this type of con.我々は自分自身を整理し、詐欺、このタイプの行動を取る必要があります。 Our government is not doing anything either…私たちの政府は何もされていません...
nita // ニータ / / Sep 5, 2008 at 1:21 PM 2008年9月5日13:21時
i got to know frm yoga zone zone kepong that need to pay aditional rm88 to be a member.私はFRMのヨガのゾーンのゾーンが必要aditional rm88を支払うkepongを知るにはメンバーになることになった。 i paid rm1188 to join y fitness brem mall but got to know the club is not opening.へ進みますページフィットネスbremモールに参加するrm1188支払ったが、クラブ開放されていない知っているようになった。 how can i get back my money????どのように私は自分のお金を取り戻すことができます？？？？
OnceAYoga // OnceAYoga / / Sep 5, 2008 at 1:53 PM 2008年9月5日13:53時
Hi Nita/Tony,こんにちは仁多/トニー、
All has been done and further complained would not work much as upon High Court Order, the company is being assessed by receivership with no interruption.すべてが完了するとしてさらに高等裁判所での時に多くの仕事ができないと不満を、会社は法廷で中断することなく評価されている。 We just have to wait and see…i guess….我々はただ待っていると参照してください...私は推測するが...。
Nalla // Nalla / / Sep 10, 2008 at 10:05 AM 2008年9月10日10:05午前
Hiya.やあ。 Does anyone know whether the Comfort Zone is under the same mgt or a different one?誰かどうかをコンフォートゾーンと同じMGTの下、または別の1つは知っていますか？ I signed up for the massage service (which goes by the hour) and have about 7 hours of unclaimed massage time.私は、マッサージサービスにサインアップ（これは、時間単位で）行き、引き取り手のないマッサージ時間約7時間している。 Is there any way I could get my money back?が私は自分のお金を得ることができるすべての方法はありますか？ If it's under a different management, could someone give me the number, please?もしそれが別の管理の下での、誰かが私の数を、下記を与えるだろうか？
OnceAYoga // OnceAYoga / / Sep 10, 2008 at 10:22 AM 2008年9月10日10:22午前
Comfort Zone is under Yoga Zone..コンフォートゾーンヨガゾーンの下に.. Under YZ, we have Comfort Zone, Yoga Zone/Club Itself and Y Fitness. YZの下で、我々コンフォートゾーン、ヨガゾーン/クラブそれ自身とYフィットしている。 YZ Academy could be consider as well. YZアカデミーも同様に考慮することができます。 Its a separate brand entity but all parked under YZ.その別のブランドのエンティティが、すべてのYZの下に停めた。 Nalla, i dont think they will open up Comfort Zone anytime soon. Nalla、私dontは、いつでもすぐにコンフォートゾーンを開くと思います。 Perhaps u just need to wait and see for ur unclaimed massage time.おそらくŬただ待っているとウル引き取り手のないマッサージ時間を参照してください必要があります。 Maybe u could change the 7 hours into a yoga class session PROVIDED that there are staff attending to your probs.たぶんuはヨガのクラスのセッションには、あるスタッフがお客様のprobsに参加している提供は、7時間は変更することができます。
There is no staff managing Comfort Zone now whats more in Yoga Zone itself, except for the receivership.ない職員の管理コンフォートゾーンは現在、管財人を除いてヨガゾーン自体の他の宿泊いただきました！です。 They would not entertain till they have come out with a solution on YZ sustainability.まではYZの持続可能性に解決策を表明している彼らを楽しまない。
NJAPF NJAPF // / / Sep 10, 2008 at 11:22 AM 2008年9月10日11:22午前
I also go to YZ in Taman Desa and last week, the centre got splashed with red paint again!私もYZにタマンデサと最後の週には、中心部だ行く赤いペンキで再び着水！ :( ：（
There was class on Mon, 8-Sep but none on Tues, 9-Sep and none today also as checked from the website.ようこそ月のクラスは、年9月8日は火、9日なし、9月およびnone今日としてもWebサイトからチェックされます。 I noticed there are classes for the YZ Damas and Kepong branches.私はそこのクラスは、YZダマとKepong支店にいることに気づいた。
Does anyone know if classes will resume at the Taman Desa branch?場合、クラスのタマンデサ支店で再開される誰でも知っていますか？ Are we allowed to go for classes at the Damas and Kepong branches?私たちのクラスのダマとKepong支店で行くことはありますか？
I miss my daily yoga classes!私は毎日ヨガのクラスを逃す！ :( ：（
helen // ヘレン / / Sep 10, 2008 at 4:28 PM 2008年9月10日16:28時
i really feel sad when i heard that yz the weld is no more class.what is going on n who can talk to us the true??//私は本当に悲しいときiは溶接以上class.whatされているyz聞いたことを感じる人たちに真実を話すことができるn上のつもりですか？/ /
merlissa // merlissa / / Sep 11, 2008 at 3:35 PM 2008年9月11日15:35時
if there any hope to get back my money ?何か希望を私のお金の背部を取得する場合は？ i just signed for the lifetime member :( who can advise me wat to do ?私は、一生のメンバーのために署名：（くれた行うワットアドバイスができますか？
Ken // 研究会 / / Sep 11, 2008 at 11:07 PM 2008年9月11日23:07時
I also noticed from their website that there were no classes for the past couple of days..私も彼らのウェブサイトがあったから数日の過去のカップル..はないクラスに気づいた I have just signed up a renewal too..私はちょうど更新も..登録している :( ：（
Also I heard there's some sort of committee formed by the members on this matter.また、私はそこに委員会のメンバーがこの問題に形成されたいくつかの並べ替えと聞きました。 Any idea how we could contact them?任意のアイデアをどのように連絡だろうか？ I think the bigger the voice the better chance we have (to get something back?)…私たちが大きな声は良いチャンス（再び何かを得ると思う？）...
preeps // preeps / / Sep 15, 2008 at 3:24 PM 2008年9月15日15:24時
i am another sucker who signed up for a YZ life membership in may 2008.私は誰がYZの人生の会員2008年5月に登録した別の吸盤です。 i think this guy TJ is a big crook.と思う一眼レフカメラ大悪党は、この男。 they had the special promotion for life membership in april/may, got everyone to sign up and then just ran off with the money.は、4月の生活を会員のための特別なプロモーションをした/して、わずかの金を持ち逃げ走ったサインアップする誰もなったことがあります。 if you ask me, his tears are just crocodile tears!もし私に尋ねる、彼の涙だけでワニの涙です！ we may never get our money back but don't think you got away with anything TJ, your karma is going to come back and bite you one day.私どもの方が、我々お金を得ることがありますが離れて一眼レフカメラ、あなたのカルマ戻ってきて一日を刺す起こっているすべてのものとなったとは思わない。
christine // / クリスティン / Sep 16, 2008 at 12:43 AM 2008年9月16日12:43午前
are you another f#cking freak or preeps, don't even know the situation and claims you know everything.別のfでも、状況は何でも知っていると主張知らないフリークまたはpreeps cking＃ている。 Guess you're just another f#cking preeps.ちょうど別のf＃cking preepsしているゲス。 Whatever you say will haunt you a lifetime if the things you say is not true.どのような場合あなたが言うことを事実ではない場合の寿命出没するという。
christine // / クリスティン / Sep 16, 2008 at 12:49 AM 2008年9月16日12:49午前
Guess all the bitches wants to swindle the yoga zone and force the owner to leave.すべての愚痴を推測ヨガゾーン詐欺に残しての所有者を強制的に望んでいる。 But beware, god knows whatever they are doing.しかし、神は何でもやっている知っている注意してください。 If caught in the wrong, will burnt in hell.もし間違って、地獄で焼かれるのを捕まえた。
serra // セラ / / Sep 16, 2008 at 12:44 PM 2008年9月16日12:44時
the best part was everyone seem to run away after all this…earlier they called us bugging to sign up…i signed up in jusco kepong for y fitness…what the F**k….i remember few ppl calling and buggin' me…jeane and jane….now MIA….i just curse them….最良の部分誰もが離れて、すべては、この後に実行するように見える... ...以前の彼らは私たち盗聴サインアップする... iが呼ばれるジャスコでは、yフィットネス...は、F **ｶ...。私はいくつかのpplを呼び出し、buggin'私に何を覚えてのkepong登録した...ジーンとjane ...。今はMIA ...んだけど、呪いが...。
Pimun // Pimun / / Sep 16, 2008 at 1:27 PM 2008年9月16日13:27時
ya,i sign up y-yitness package also.屋、私は今ﾝアップyitnessパッケージも。 they tell will opening on august, but finally din also.は、8月に開幕するが、最終的には、騒音教えてください。 tattime i felt cheated,if the company really faced financial problem, why still want promote cheaper package to us.この会社は本当に、なぜ今私たちに安価なパッケージを促進したいとの金融問題に直面したtattime私はだまされ、感じた。 since do that, i just can say they got heart want cheat our money and take our money go away.以来、私だけでは、中心部はお金をごまかす必要だと離れて行く我々お金を取ると言うことがありません。 i'm so angry because my payment still charge by bank every month.銀行が支払いはまだ料金は毎月私は怒っているよ。 someone consultant of checking this company suggest i go report police, because this one is cheat case.これは、この1つの場合チートはこの会社のチェックをコンサルタント私はレポートを警察に行っても、お勧めします。
Sylvia // シルビア / / Sep 16, 2008 at 1:27 PM 2008年9月16日13:27時
I and my fren jz join up y fitness at jinjang there.私と私のfren jzがjinjangにYフィットネスに参加します。 There r nt yet open..ある研究NTをまだ開い.. Who can tell me wat can i do?誰ワットすればよいか教えてください？ I cant get back my money..私は自分のお金を..取り戻す傾ける cant stop the monthly instalment at bank..傾斜の銀行で..毎月の分割払いを停止する im helpless…無力イム...
christine // / クリスティン / Sep 17, 2008 at 1:24 AM 2008年9月17日1:24午前
Is ok, I heard rumours about some operation manageress and teachers who use to work there took over the whole operation network. OKですが、私はいくつかの操作支配人者が全体の操作をネットワークを介していた作業に使用する教師についてのうわさを聞いた。 And also a lady would put in some monies to help with the operation.また女性のいくつかの金銭での操作を支援するため、ですが。 They promise to open and get all members some freebies.彼らにはオープンすることを約束し、すべてのメンバーが景品を取得します。 Just be patient.だけお待ちください。 If they don't open then look them up for refund.もし開いていないの払い戻しのために見上げる。 If still can't find them then look up some feedback from other members.それでも彼らは、他のメンバーからのいくつかのフィードバックをルックアップを見つけることができません。 Hope this will help.ホープは、この役立ちます。 I heard this from one of those operation manageress who had a meeting a few days back.私はこれらの操作からは、数日会議を開き、支配人は聞いた。 She said they would operate with a new company name but they will refund whatever owing to the members彼女は新しい会社名で動作するだろうが、どんなメンバーにより返金すると発表した
christine // / クリスティン / Sep 17, 2008 at 1:47 AM 2008年9月17日1:47 AMに
Funny, how could onceAyoga get your salary when all others don't.おかしい、どのようにonceAyogaときに他のすべてのないあなたの給料をもらうことができます。 Something fishy is going on here.何だかここで起こっている。 Wonder if TJ know about you getting your salary.のかどうか一眼レフカメラあなたの給料を得ることについて知っている。 I think TJ has been blame wrongly.私一眼レフカメラ誤って非難されていると思う。 Find the truth please or god will fine you.真実をいただくか、神を微されますして下さい。
OnceAYoga // OnceAYoga / / Sep 17, 2008 at 8:15 AM 2008年9月17日8時15分午前
I got hold of my salary way before the problems starts to aggravate on the heavier side.私は自分の給与方法の問題点を前に、重い副作用を悪化させる起動を入手した。 Thank god i leave on time and push my way for my salary when HR and few other management people are still there.神の私は感謝の時間に出発すると私の給料は私のようにプッシュするとき、人事部やいくつかの他の管理人はまだそこにいる。 Those who are still with them after i left began to get delay payment and now no payment of their salary.それらの後、私は左の人はまだ彼らとて支払いを遅らせるを取得し、すぐに自分の給料のないお支払いを開始した。 I dont get my EPF payment though.私も自分の厚生年金基金の支払いはいけない。 So lucky me.だから私本当に幸運でした。 Whether TJ has done wrongly or not, i am not sure.かどうかを一眼レフカメラ不当かどうか実行して、私は分からない。 The receivership is having a hard time finding an investor to help them.管財人を支援するため、投資家を見つけるのに苦労している。 Please be prepare for the worst.してください最悪の事態に備えてください。 As for Y Fitness, if centro management took it over and run on their own, there might be hope. Ýフィットネスとして、もし中心部の管理を引き継ぎ、自分で実行すると、大きな希望される場合があります。 Christine, i would suggest to put urself in an neutral position.クリスティン、iは、中立的な立場でurself置くことをお勧めします。
preeps // preeps / / Sep 17, 2008 at 12:12 PM 2008年9月17日12:12時
hey christine, why are you taking this so personally?ちょっとクリスティーヌ、なぜこのように個人的にしている？ most of us are upset with yogazone because we cannot get our money back.私たちに戻る当社のお金を得ることができない私たちのほとんどyogazoneと憤慨している。 fyi the outlet in plaza damas already has new management there. fyiプラザダマにコンセントが既に持って新たな経営がある。 they told me that they will be offering existing members free classes until the end of September, after that everyone has to pay RM88 per month.彼らの後は、誰も1ヶ月RM88の支払いをしたのは、9月の終わりまでは、既存の会員は無料授業を提供することだと私に語った。 so basically your existing membership is burned.ので、基本的に既存の会員が燃やされて。 whether it is TJ's fault or not for running away with our money, that is the bottom line.かどうかを離れて私たちのお金で、その下の行が実行するため一眼レフカメラのせいかどうかです。
oneyoga oneyoga // / / Sep 17, 2008 at 1:16 PM 2008年9月17日13:16時
The receiver is privately appointed by the damn minority shareholder, Lim Lay Gaik, though approved by the high court, but definitely still biased.受信者個人が偏った気少数株主、イムレイGaikただし、高等裁判所が承認されたが、間違いなくによって任命される。 The cowards receivers neither dare to pick up my calls nor meet me face-to-face while I was in their office at brickfields.臆病者の受信も、私の電話を拾う勇気も私の顔を付き合わせながら、私たちのオフィスでbrickfieldsだった満たしています。
I have printed out a status report of the receivership from court, this woman is using back-door tactic to take over YZ, she's now the new boss of this new crap yoga joint, call 'urban yoga', really a biXXh!私は裁判所から、この女性はバックを使用してドアの戦術YZを引き継ぐように、彼女は現在、この新しいがらくたヨガの共同の新しい上司の法廷のステータスレポートを印刷して、コール'都市ヨガ'、本当にbiXXh！
Think twice, think three times, TJ is the 90% shareholder, for every single dollar he conned, he gets only 10cent benefits.と思うの2倍、3倍のTJ彼はだまさごとに1つのドルは、90％の株主だと思う、彼は10centの利点を取得します。 Furthermore, used your 6 years blood and sweat to con and leave the bad name behind?また、詐欺との背後にある不正な名前を残して6年間の血と汗が使用されますか It's too not worthy the damage and the time consumed.あまりにも損傷と時間を消費する価値はない。
I just know that in cheras and Sri petaling outlet, the once-credit contoller from celebrities fitness, the ex-sales manager of yoga zone, paullin long, was the root of the problem.私はちょうどチェラ、スリペタリンコンセント、有名人からの一度の信用contollerで、フィットネス、ヨガゾーンpaullin長期の元営業部長は、問題の根本的だったよ。 Receipts were issued in the way that the carbon copy was cancelled, but the original receipts were written with amount and cash collected from members.領収書の方法は、カーボンコピーがキャンセルされたのが、発行された領収書の原本の量と、現金のメンバーから収集したと書かれていた。 She also simply gives extra months to members up to 9 months free without getting her approval from the superior.彼女はまた、単にメンバーは9ヶ月間無料に優れてからの彼女の承認を取得せずに余分なか月ことができます。
If you see carefully, the picture will be much clearer.場合は慎重を参照して、画像がより明確になります。 When an empire like this was built up, there's no way that the competitor can come close, it's understandable that the competitors will get envy, only way is to nail it down and everyone then have the chance to share this market pie.このような帝国はない方法では、ライバルの近く来ることができるのが建設され、そのライバルは、唯一の方法は羨望を得る理解しやすいのがくぎ付けに、みんなして、チャンスはこの市場のパイを共有することです。
christine // / クリスティン / Sep 17, 2008 at 7:50 PM 2008年9月17日19:50時
sorry to preeps and onceAyoga as I'm too fedup of this con nonssence.私も、この詐欺nonssenceのfedupだpreepsとonceAyogaにすまない。 But I think that bitch (Lay Gaik) should go for good.しかし、私は雌（レイGaik）の利益のために行くべきだと思う。 If TJ would open a new joint, I would certainly joint his club.もし一眼レフカメラの新しいジョイントを開くと、私は確かに彼のクラブの合同です。 TJ, please contact me and those eager member who wants to get back to your club if you happen to start operation again.一眼レフカメラ、誰場合は、もう一度操作を開始するに起こるあなたのクラブに戻るには望んでこれらの熱心なメンバー、私に連絡してください。
christine // / クリスティン / Sep 17, 2008 at 8:04 PM 2008年9月17日20:04時
I wonder if Lay Gaik needs more money for her coffin as all the money she Con, I don't think that's enough.もしレイGaikすべてのお金として彼女の棺彼女コン用の資金が必要なのだろうか、私は十分だとは思わない。 Maybe should get more members to contribute so she could have a bungalow type of coffinかもしれないので、彼女は棺のバンガローのタイプかもしれない多くのメンバー貢献することを取得する必要があります
nightangle // nightangle / / Sep 20, 2008 at 3:51 PM 2008年9月20日15:51時
i joined YFtiness inKota Kinabalu in 06/08, paid for a year's membership through my credit card, and after coming back from KL recenlty i find out that the outlet in KK is closed, no notice so whatsoever!私は6月8日で、今年の会員のための私のクレジットカードで支払ってYFtiness inKotaキナバルに参加し、クアラルンプールrecenlty iから帰国後は株式会社のコンセント、閉じているを見つけるの通知は一切！ i called one of the staff who encouraged me to sign up for one year mebership ( in June 08) she told me she quit 3 months ago( ironic since she was there when i signed up 3 months ago) and does not know what happened to the outlet since then…. i）と1人を私は1年mebership 6月08（）以来彼女がそこにいた彼女は3ヶ月前に終了する（皮肉なことに私は3ヶ月前に署名したと言わサインアップすることをお勧めは、スタッフと呼ばれる何が起きたのを知っていないその後、コンセント...。
is anyone else out there who are a gym member here in KK who are also frustrated and would like something to be done in order to get some sort of refund ?誰そこには株式会社の人も不満を感じてからの還付金のいくつかの並べ替えを取得するために行われることを何かのようになるには、ジムのメンバーはここぐらいですか？
This is daylight robbery!!これは白昼強盗です！
peaceofmind // peaceofmind / / Sep 23, 2008 at 9:38 AM 2008年9月23日9時38分で午前
I am a member of Y Fitness KK too.のYフィットネス株式会社のメンバーもいます。 I signed up for the one year monthly installment, but somehow they didn't charge me for last month and this month.私は、1年間の月賦のが、サインアップ何とか、今月は先月、私は充電しないででした。 Did you pay them upfront for a lifetime or yearly membership?それらの寿命や年間会員の前払いですか？
nightangle // nightangle / / Sep 24, 2008 at 7:12 PM 2008年9月24日19:12時
i payed upfront….:-(私payedする先行... :-(
is there any other gym in KK?ある株式会社の他のジムですか？
Pinky // ピンキーストリート / / Sep 25, 2008 at 4:39 AM 2008年9月25日午前4時39分で午前
i'm so sad and angry to heard about the close down,私は悲しいとの緊密な情報を聞いたところに腹を立て、
i sign up for the Y fitness at Brem mall fitness few weeks before the bad news spread out from news,, me and my 2 friends sign up for one year monthly installment, and the gym is not open yet…feeling being fooled by them..私は数週間前に、悪いニュースニュースから広がるBremモール、フィットネス、で、私と私の2お友達と1年間の月賦にサインアップは、Y、フィットネス、、そしてジムはまだ開いていない場合... ...感情にだまされて申し込む。 。
I contacted the SA called jeanne tat intro the membership to us and she just give me a corporate number i had call few times but no one attended…私は、SAの私たちにジャンヌ報復イントロの会員と呼ばれる彼女は私が数回呼び出していた誰もが参加企業の番号iを連絡...
Is anyone goin to form group to voice out this problem ??誰goinは、この問題を声にグループを形成する？？
Have anyone report this issue to the consumer association??ている誰もが消費者協会は、この問題を報告する？？ i'm planning to since there is no news and no update…and i still need to continue make the payment every month…and it even not started yet…the more bad news is the Y fitness center not even build in the mall yet…がないのでニュースの更新...そして私もお支払いを毎月続けて... ...と言ってもまだ開始していない... ...もっと悪いニュースでも、ショッピングモールではまだビルドされないYのフィットネスセンターが必要である私が計画している...
Using open more outlet tactics to get money from members to solve the financial problem does not seem working…メンバーからの財政問題を解決するために資金を得るためのコンセント戦術を開いて使用するよう動作していないですが...
Does Mr TJ still in Malaysia or run away to another country??しない氏一眼レフカメラマレーシアは、依然として、または他の国に逃げる？？
Seemingly hopeless of stopping the monthly installment…一見月賦販売を停止する絶望的...
I'm really hopefully they will open back the gym…sob..sob..私は本当に期待して...すすり泣き..すすり泣きジムバックを開いてくれるに違いない
peaceofmind // peaceofmind / / Sep 25, 2008 at 7:41 AM 2008年9月25日7時41分で午前
i have been looking around for other gym in KK too.私は株式会社の他のジムにとっても周りを探している。 I asked about the fitness centre alocation in One Borneo, but unfortunately they haven't found any tenant yet.私は1つのボルネオ島のフィットネスセンターalocationについては、言及はなく、残念ながら彼らはまだテナントが見つからない場合があります。
And as i know they are fitness member in sutera harbour, tanjung aru resort, and le meridien too.
pinky, can't you try to ask the bank to stop the monthly deduction?
orientalpoet // Sep 25, 2008 at 1:23 PM
My friend and I both signed up for the “lifetime” membership package early Feb 08. It's really fustrating to know that we'll continue to pay our credit card for services that no longer would be provided to us.
Anyway, I've checked with Citibank with regards to the monthly deduction in my credit card. They have paid Y-Fitness upfront for the sum due. So in my case, I'm actually paying back Citibank. As such, there's no way for them to stop the deduction. Darn it!!
Marilyn // Sep 26, 2008 at 11:13 AM
I am a yogaclub member too.
Went few times to their centre but its half open and the door is locked.
I couldnt get to enter and ask anything. I would like to know how they gonna settle the credit card installment people.. I heard there is thing like voucher.. not so sure thats yi 1 2 ask clearly but i dont have the chance.
Anyone is yogazone/club members?? can i know more about it..
I signed up last dec and left 4 months to pay the stupid money. But its rly not worth for us to pay for nothing, isnt… i was thinking to take up instrutor course, luckily im stil thinking and never do anything. And i called the worker that layan me to sign for them, he never answer too.
peaceofmind // Sep 26, 2008 at 12:02 PM
I heard about the taking over thingy. Does anyone has any latest update on that?
Inez // Sep 27, 2008 at 12:44 AM
you guy may go to this site http://ttpm.kpdnhep.gov.my/portal/index.php . 。 Although we may not know it help or not. but at least we try. or refer to http://yogalover88.blogspot.com . 。 it is very comprehensive and detail on what is going on
nightangle // Sep 27, 2008 at 3:33 PM
i think i will compalint ot the consumers association as well, thnx pinky for suggesting that…hopefully there's enough of us making noise for the legistative department to do something…this is clearly daylight robbery…especially for people who pay liftime mebership….
Pinky // Sep 28, 2008 at 10:20 PM
Hi nightangle,
when u are goin to the consumers association??
hope we can meet up and go together see can get any help from the association or not, i dunwan my hard earn money goin inside the drain..TT
They are blood sucking beast..take all our money and run like tat…
blossom // Sep 30, 2008 at 2:27 PM
Hi guys,こんにちは人、
I am not YZ victim. I join WMAC ( world martial art center) for Yoga class. It is located opposite Ampang Park. I find there is issue with the center's management. They cancel class w/o informing the member, I feel being cheated. I join the center becos of a line dance class on Monday. After the instructor quit, they just remove this class on Monday. SO why I am still paying? no line dance class, and another Yoga Instructor also quit recently.. are they gonna close yoga class as well??
nightangle // Oct 1, 2008 at 11:21 AM
hey pinky,
i will probably go on a saturday or friday lunch time, because i am mostly stuck at work…
but there's a from that will need to be filled out (can be downloaed and printed off) and pay the stamp duty and then give it to the ketua seksyen tribunal tuntutan Pengguna Malaysia, Tingkat 4 , Blok E , Bangunan KWSP, tel no: 088 257 690 or fax 088 269 244
the form can be downloaed at their website(se INez's message)
CQ // Oct 1, 2008 at 1:10 PM
What a shame!どのようなのは残念！ I just found out that YogaZone has been closed down. I bought 3 vouchers from a member in March, and I thought may be I can use it someday…and now that someday will never come…as I can't use my voucher in the Urban Yoga.
I'm so regret…wasted my father's money, I still remember he wasn't happy that I buy the stupid vouchers.
This taught me never buy anything unless you need it immediately or should buy it one at a time, do not get tempted by it because you think is a great bargain/offer! Hate to learn this lesson this way! But of course my case is nothing compare to those that had sign up as life members.
OnceAYoga // Oct 1, 2008 at 8:31 PM
Hi All, please check out the latest update from the website of yogazone
http://www.yogazone.com.my
Pinky // Oct 4, 2008 at 10:42 AM
Hey nightangle, which form should i download?
Have you submit the form?
I want to ask you pay the membership fee by credit card installment or full cash?
Valerie // Oct 6, 2008 at 12:08 PM
I wanna to claim back my money for the lifetime membership and also the previous monthly pass. But I dont know whether I can get back my hard-earned money or not. Really regret to join YC.
Anyone from Endah Parade outlet?
i_n_k // Oct 6, 2008 at 7:09 PM
nightangle,im from KK too and imagine my shock going to citymall today to see the gym has closed down!!! i signed up since last year and supposedly have til end of november before my 1 year membership ends..im totally in a blur right now…what exactly happened??
Marilyn // Oct 6, 2008 at 9:12 PM
hi.. i am from endah parade outlet.. I joined one year programme but the package is free 6months and pay for one year fees.
I am regret too! sigh..
Valerie,do u go to meet anyone in endah parade outlet asking bout refunding or anything ? everytime i went thr, the door was locked with nobody at reception counter. SIGH!! i do not know wat should i do .. asking who.. or calling where to ask?
Valerie // Oct 7, 2008 at 11:13 AM
I din go to Endah Parade outlet but I did call them last few months. The stupid sales consultant still dare to ask me to sign up for new package in order to support their center. Already cheated so much money from the members and still they have the gut to continue with the cheating.
I really dont know what to do now. Really regret…
Danie // Oct 7, 2008 at 12:14 PM
I am a member of Yoga Zone @ Y Fitness Kota Kinabalu. Very disappointing to say that when the management of Y Fitness were trying to sell their membership to people they even promised the stars and the moon. I signed up, so did my girlfriends. I inquired about the life time membership one day. Without my knowledge, the consultant just upgraded my membership just because I had asked a few question regarding the life time membership.
When I told her that I did not accept any lifetime membership offers, she (The consultant) bagged me to accept the lifetime membership just because she had committed to the management under my name. I was so disgusted and refuted that I did not signup for a life time membership.
Worst thing is there wasn't even any notice telling the members about what was going on to the fitness center in Kota Kinabalu. being the first fitness center in Kota Kinabalu. Not even one signal indicating what was going on! I have been calling the center to seek for explanation. Some said that they are closed due to change of management. Some said they are closed for renovation. Until 2 weeks ago I took the afford to see what was the reason for its closure. To my amazed it was a court order stated that the place has been ceased by a lawyer firm in Kuala Lumpur.
So now, my next question is does that mean all the money that all the members have paid is being burned just like that?
We are now joining a petition through a lawyer firm in Kota Kinabalu (Ting & Jublee Advocate & Solicitor) to take action on our behalf. Let it be a refund of a small amount but at least its what we deserve. The management should not leave its member without any explanation.
Valerie // Oct 7, 2008 at 6:36 PM
Is there anyone know that there is petition in KL side?
i_n_k // Oct 7, 2008 at 6:36 PM
hi danie! im from KK too and just knew about the closure yesterday when i went to the gym after class. im truly surprised the way they dealt with this matter by leaving the members in the dark on the situation.can i join the petition too?
Pinky // Oct 8, 2008 at 11:59 AM
Most of u join the Y fitness at other outlets at least you had used it for months,
but for the kepong Y fitness tat i join..they evan not started to build the gym yet than the next day we know the yoga zone gone bankcrupt..and still we need to pay the installment…
Have anyone successful getting back the refund pls do inform~TT
nightangle // Oct 10, 2008 at 12:24 AM
please let me know how to go about this petition too…
pinkaddict76 // Oct 13, 2008 at 10:59 PM
oh my… i'm so sad to hear about this and i feel bad for all the people who signed up for the lifetime membership. i remember they were really aggressively selling me the lifetime membership and i kept on postponing it. good thing i didn't sign up in the end… but i still lost some money bec i paid in advance for the massages as Comfort Zone (which is the massage area of YogaZone Plaza Damas). I still have several fully paid massages not claimed.
I am sure that there are people out there like me who bought massages in advance thru Comfort Zone… i wonder what will happen to this? I guess we all learned a lot from this experience.
Not only learning about the risk in signing up for lifetime membership at fitness areas… but also be wary about pre-paid massages (and buying too many of it just bec of the good deal / good promotion).
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OnceAYoga // Oct 14, 2008 at 11:41 AM
Hi all..
For me its a two way thing where marketing would be heavily emphasize o promotions. Otherwise, it wont even attract ppl to sign up. On how aggresive the sales team is, im not sure and ultimately as a consumer, u would be more attracted if u see a good promo upon signing up. The end decision is still yours to negotiate beyond the black and white paper. Personally, i dont think the sales team should be blame for forcing you to sign, without some 'forcing ability', you wont probably end up being a sales person.
nightangle // Oct 15, 2008 at 8:34 PM
the staff were persuading us while all the while the financial problem was happening…i was also encouraged to buy a lifetime membership not only for myself but for my partner as well, good thing we didnt…and it was just in early July this year…at that time i hear now some of the staff were not being paid for some months already….and when i called them to find out what happened after the unexpected closure they said they had resigned 3 months before ! and they dont know anything about the fitness closure ( and this was in August!)
KK Paintball Centre // Oct 23, 2008 at 8:22 PM
fuk Y FITNESS!!! i was one of the victim. 1 month before the Centro Klang branch closed they still bugging me everyday for signing up!!
i signed up and i go back to kk few week for some biz stuff. when i come back to klang, they already closed their premise!!!
DAMN!!!! anyone from KK who gonna lodge complaint to them??
come we make thing together.
sms me 013-242 8661
KK Paintball Centre // Oct 23, 2008 at 8:24 PM
they have even drop down their webpage
http://www.yfitness.com.my/
DAMN!!!!
KK Paintball Centre // / / Oct 29, 2008 at 3:45 PM
fuck the new Centro Klang's CHI
its the same thing i need to pay another RM1xx every month and what benefit they talking about??? (apart from my money 1.8k that YF already scammed)
i dont see any than wanna eat money from us again
so anyone could tell me how to fill the kdnhep form against Y Fitness klang?
should it be the same like
Name of Respondent : The Yoga Zone Group Sdn Bhd
IC No. / Registration Company No. : 680406-X
Address : No. 30-1, Jalan 2/109E, Desa Business Park, Taman Desa, Off Jalan Klang Lama, 58100 Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.
Tel.電話番号 No. : 03 – 7987 7680
H/P No. : nil
Fax No. : 03 – 7983 2676
Email : info@yogazone.com.my
??? ？？？
Marilyn // Nov 4, 2008 at 11:07 AM
Anyone learn yoga around Cheras areas? Sri petaling or Bukit jalil?
I wish to learn yoga again.. but i dare not to sign up for this kind of membership anymore.
Any yoga centre provides service like paying monthly fees and learn ?
Thanx
Ken // 研究会 / / Nov 11, 2008 at 4:09 PM
Hi Marilyn,
I am not sure about Yoga centre around Cheras area, but I am aware of some in the area of Kuchai Entrepreneur Park, Off Kuchai Lama.
In fact, I am considering taking up the class at OneYoga there (www.oneyogacentre.com). I found that quite a number of ex-YogaZone trainers are teaching at the place now. They also informed me that their Bukit Jalil branch will be opening next Feb.
- Ken
Ken // 研究会 / / Nov 12, 2008 at 10:41 AM
Just tried out the trial class at OneYoga, Kuchai Entrepreneur Park. It cost me RM10 (for two classes). The offer there now is RM788 for two person, which entitles for 3 months + 2 weeks, unlimited use. Their concept is pretty much like YogaZone, they have classes running throughout the day, and you can just hop in any of the classes you like.
Setup there is quite good, with the studio room larger than Tmn Desa YogaZone. Shower and locker facilities are good too. This morning class was Power, which essential comprises of sun salutions, and some stretching asanas. I would think it will suit most of the Beginner – Intermediate students. I think I will go back again.
Tony // Nov 12, 2008 at 2:32 PM
Looks like Clark Hatch has taken over the Y fitness centre in Centro Klang. They are currently open for business….They are charging RM105 per month via direct debit method via credit card or bankcard….What abt our deposits for life membership from Y Fitness? Is there any legal avenues to recover our money?
Ken // 研究会 / / Nov 24, 2008 at 1:49 PM
Hi all, I have just turned up at the Tribunal court this morning for the claim of my newly paid membership for renewal for YogaZone. The receiver company didnt have anyone turn up the event, so the Tribunal court issued an order for the receiver court to attend the court.
Anyone here have any latest with claim? Tho I know chances are slim to get any money back, I still feel that it's worth the try.
- Ken
Marilyn // Nov 25, 2008 at 1:51 PM
Hi Ken, thanx for your info :)
I am quite afraid to pay an amount for a long/short term of classes. But so far, i never come across with any yoga center which offers monthly payment basis. Quite upset. As i am still a student, so actually i cant afford to pay a huge amount by myself in one time. But i really wish to continue my yoga class. :) I went to OneYoga for enquiry before about their promotion and classes etc before i signed with Yogazone. So bad luck i choose yogazone. SIGH!
Montoy // Nov 25, 2008 at 3:30 PM
Hi, any one join Urban Yoga in Plaza Damas?
How was their facilities and service, do they maintain the standard as Yogazone?
Ken // 研究会 / / Nov 25, 2008 at 4:23 PM
Hi Marilyn,
I understand what you mean as I have the same concern too in committing long term membership.
So have you signed up with any clubs yet? Do you have any good ones to recommend as I am still hoping to check out others first before making my decision. A friend of mine asked to check out MYoga in MidValley.
Valerie // Nov 25, 2008 at 5:03 PM
Now, dont dare to sign up with any yoga club.
Grace // Nov 26, 2008 at 7:52 PM
So, I've read all the comments. Each and everyone of them. I actually enrolled in Y Fitness Kota Kinabalu December last year. Then suddenly one day when I went to the gym around August/December, boom! It's closed. At first I thought maybe it was just an off day for them. Later I heard my friend telling me something about Y Fitness facing some sort of finanacial problems. So, I called them to reaffirm. No one answered. My father drove there and have a look. There was a court order on a piece of paper in the door. Few days later when I went to that location, I see that all gym equipments were no longer there. What a way to greet us.
I just want to know if there's any refund for my membership. Recently, I received an sms stating that there is going to be full refunds for Y Fitness in City Mall, Kota Kinabalu. I don't know if it's true. If it's true, that would be great. But how can we get our refunds? I mean, there's no instructions or whatsoever directions that state where we should go to or proceed. Could someone please tell me what I should do?
Grace // Nov 26, 2008 at 7:54 PM
Sorry, I meant August/September.
Oriental Poet // Nov 28, 2008 at 3:37 PM
Hi Grace
I too was a member of Y Fitness @ City Mall, KK. My friends and I didn't receive any sms regarding full refunds for Y Fitness. So there's no truth to it. Even if there were to be any refunds I doubt it'll be paid in full.
Marilyn // Dec 7, 2008 at 12:09 PM
Nope, i havent sign up any new yoga classes. “PHOBIA” :)
but wish to learn yoga again, sigh~
I found out that yoga lounge in kuchai lama.. anyone is learning yoga there?
rAiN // Dec 9, 2008 at 4:50 PM
I wanted to start learning Yoga and surfing around for a good Yoga center… I live near Kuchai Lama and considering OneYoga, YogaLounge and 72Yoga Studio…
Both OneYoga and Yoga Lounge offer very nice ambiance which look comfortable, however 72 Yoga studio look a bit simple and dim. Anyway I think my main consideration of learning Yoga should not be putting on the renovated ambience but the true concept of Yoga.
72 Yoga studio – seems to practicing a very good concept of healthy and meaningful lifestyle by offering not even Yoga, but charity activity, camp etc..
One Yoga – Look more pro and offering more type of Yoga, anyway I do not know what are the difference and considering
Yoga Lounge- the ambience give me good impression but I suspect the gal who talked to me is a smoker, which I think true Yoga people would not smoke since they are promoting and offering health service.
I am deciding between One Yoga and 72 Yoga studio, anybody has any comment?
In terms of payment- to those who is looking for Monthly payment, yes, 72 Yoga studio offering such.
I found this site given quite a good details of the Yoga centre found in Kuchai Lama:
http://yogalover88.blogspot.com/2008/08/yoga-centers-at-kuchai-entrepreneur.html
Ken // 研究会 / / Dec 10, 2008 at 11:33 AM
Hi Rain,こんにちは雨、
I have attended the two sessions of the trial classes at OneYoga (I have practiced Yoga for over a year now, until YogaZone closed down recently). The good thing about One Yoga is that the studios are large and spacious, so you would not have to experience the “sardin-type” classes where hand touches hand. The front desk Ms Samantha is helpful and pleasant attitude, so that's nice. Shower room facilities (for men at least) is decent and nice.
Now when come to the instructors, based on the two classes I attended, I would say “not bad”. I think they are adequate, but I wouldn't put it as very good.
I am kind of in a dilemma now as to whether I should check out more other places, or should I just sign up OneYoga. After all, it's a 3 months deal, so worse case I just switch to you other places if I do find better ones.
May I know where 72Yoga is located, near OneYoga?
Cheers, Ken
rAiN // Dec 10, 2008 at 10:21 PM
72 Yoga studio is at the same row with Old Town Kopitiam Kuchai Lama…if u like spacious yoga centre, think 72 Yoga Studio is kind of small… anyway juz check it out ^-^
Sea // Dec 14, 2008 at 11:49 PM
Hi to every victim of YOgazone,
Im oso was a member from Tmn Desa headquarter club. Practice for 1 year de. Since the closed down of the whole yoga zone group through out Malaysia on Sept till now, im wonder anybody have any idea or new updates that the new receivers Messrs Ferrier Hodgson MH Sdn Bhd going to open back the club? In the main homepage of YZ (www.yogazone.com.my), they had posted up a notice but didnt mention any action will be taken. As i have assumed that all my installment money will not get refund back, so now i just wish there will be a replacement club for all ex-YZ member.
Fyi, i had already paid 11th c.card installment and there still 1 month left for me to paid!!! but the worst part is this whole 1 year renewal membership, i still havent activated yet. so now im still thinking weather need to paid it o not as the bank will still charge us interest fee if we didnt clear the debt……*sigh*!!!!
To Ken // Nov 24, 2008 at 1:49 pm,
Do u think it will be too late if i make a complaint report to Tribunal now? As there is a new in Sinchew Daily dated 11th Dec 2008, there were 5 members success win the case to claim back refund for membership fee but same case as yours that the defendant didnt turn up.
please to receive feedback and opinion from everybody!!!!
thank you and wish everybody good luck!!
Valerie // Dec 15, 2008 at 2:25 PM
How to make claim in Tribunal? I am not expert in this. What are the documents required? Btw, will it be too late if I file the claim now? I really wish to get back my money as my financial is very tight now.
Valerie // Dec 15, 2008 at 2:28 PM
hope somebody can show me the light… desperate now…
Ken // 研究会 / / Dec 16, 2008 at 10:34 AM
Hi Sea,
I am not sure if it's too late to file a complaint but I would give it a go if I were you. No harm right? It is quite straight forward. As in the Sin Chew news dated 11/12/08, are you sure that it mentioned 5 members of YogaZone successfully claimed there refund back? I read any article on that day on SinChew but didn't see that part of the news. Would you mind to send me the article please? It would be good news if there has been successful claimants.
Hi Valerie,
As mentioned to the Sea above, I would still give it a go at the tribunal, no harm done. I will try post up the website later which you could download the forms to submit to the tribunal.
Ken // 研究会 / / Dec 16, 2008 at 5:27 PM
How does a consumer file a claim in the Tribunal?
A claim can be filed in the Tribunal by filling up the claim form which is known as Form 1. This Form is available free of charge from all Tribunal branches and can even be downloaded from the e-Tribunal portal.
Form 1 must be completed in 4 copies by the claimant and filed in the nearest office of the Tribunal. The filing fee for Form 1 is RM5.00 and an official receipt will be issued to the claimant.
Form 1 will be registered dated and signed by the Secretary or an Assistant Secretary of the Tribunal and affixed with the seal of the Tribunal. Two copies of Form 1 that have been affixed with the seal of the Tribunal shall be returned to the claimant for service. Service of Form 1 to a respondent may be affected in any of the following manner:
leaving the document with the director, manager, secretary or other similar officer of the company or the proprietor of the firm;
giving the document to any of the persons mentioned above; or
posting the document in a pre-paid registered letter addressed to any of the persons mentioned above at the registered office of the company or firm or at its address for service
Note: Since YogaZone in under the Receivership, so the service of Form1 will be directed to the Receiver. Their details as follow:
Ferrier Hodgson MH Sdn Bhd, No. 22, Jalan Tun Sambathan 3, 50470 Kuala Lumpur
What happens after filing Form 1?
The consumer has to serve Form 1 on the trader and both parties are required to attend a hearing of the claim on the date fixed by the Tribunal.
How should the parties prepare for the hearing before the Tribunal?
The parties should gather all relevant documents regarding the claim and get ready any witnesses to attend the hearing. Any party can also bring along a family member, friend etc. to assist them at the hearing. However, no lawyers are allowed to represent either party at the hearing.
What happens after the Tribunal hearing?
If the claim is settled with the consent of both parties, the Tribunal will issue an agreed award (Note: All Tribunal orders are known as awards). If the claim is not settled, the Tribunal will issue an award based on the assessment of the facts and the law involved. The President will give his reasons for the award.
What happens if any one party does not comply with an award of the Tribunal?
Non-compliance with a Tribunal award is a criminal offence under the Consumer Protection Act, 1999. Any complain of non-compliance with an award should be made to the Enforcement Division, Ministry of Domestic Trade and Consumer Affairs.
Tribunal Branches
WILAYAH PERSEKUTUAN KUALA LUMPUR
Ketua Seksyen
Tribunal Tuntutan Pengguna Malaysia
Tingkat 16, Putra Place
100, Jalan Putra
50622 KUALA LUMPUR.
TEL: 03-4042 4181 / 4042 4194
FAX: 03-4042 4259
SELANGOR
Ketua Seksyen
Tribunal Tuntutan Pengguna Malaysia
Lot 03-13, Tingkat 3, Bangunan PKNS
40622 SHAH ALAM, SELANGOR.
TEL: 03-5511 8271 / 5511 4929
FAX: 03-5511 6981
For Penang, Malacca and Sabah, please refer to this link:
http://ttpm.kpdnhep.gov.my/portal/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=22&Itemid=30
Guideline to help you fill in the Form 1 http://ttpm.kpdnhep.gov.my/portal/images/stories/tribunal/how_to_fill_form1.pdf
Excerpt from Fei's comment, we should fill up Yogazone particular (as per below) in the Respondent column.
Name of Respondent : The Yoga Zone Group Sdn Bhd
IC No. / Registration
CompanyNo. : 680406-X
Address : No. 30-1, Jalan 2/109E, Desa Business Park, Taman Desa, Off Jalan Klang Lama,58100, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.
Tel.電話番号 No. : 03 – 7987 7680
H/P No. : nil
Fax No. : 03 – 7983 2676
Email : Eメール： info@yogazone.com.my
You may download the Form 1 from this link: http://ttpm.kpdnhep.gov.my/portal/images/stories/tribunal/form_1.pdf
Hope the above information is useful for you and for further detail, you may refer to Tribunal for Consumer Claims Malaysia.
Valerie // Dec 17, 2008 at 3:37 PM
Thanks a lot Ken, you really a great helper in this matter. At least now I know what to do and how to do. Once again, million thanks.
Ken // 研究会 / / Dec 17, 2008 at 5:04 PM
You are welcomed Valerie. Do keep us posted if you have made any progress. I am eager to hear if anyone out there has successful gotten their refund back…
rAiN // Dec 17, 2008 at 10:59 PM
http://yogalover88.blogspot.com/2008/12/tribunal-for-consumer-claims-yogazone.html
Yes!はい！ someone did get their money back.
Good luck to others who affected :)
Ken // 研究会 / / Dec 18, 2008 at 11:21 AM
Hi Rain,
Many many thanks for the news article !
However I think that, although the 5 claimants have been given winning by the tribunal court, it doesn't mean that they have received the refund back from YOGAZone yet. Do take a look at the article below by another member:
http://www.malaysiabrides.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=8621&st=30
“YogaZone has been placed under receivership. When a company is in receivership, all debts incurred by the company prior to the appointment of the receiver and manager, will be paid in accordance to Section 191 and 292 of the Companies Act, 1965. ie the secure creditor will come first (ie debenture holder (bank(s)), then if there is any surplus, it will be used to pay the preferential creditors (eg employees, EPF, tax….) and IF there are still surpluses, then only the unsecured creditors will get paid (suppliers, and customers, like those who actually signed up and paid their membership fees).
The gist of it is that if the secured creditor don't get paid in full, no one else gets paid. no matter where you go. or if you have a judgement.”
Meanwhile, I would like to know any ex-YZ members out there who's actually received the refund…
In any case, many thanks Rain for the sharing of article. Let's hope we have more good news to come…
- Ken
Oriental Poet // Jan 14, 2009 at 10:47 PM
Looks like Core Fitness is taking over Y Fitness here in KK. Not much details about it thus far. But the big question is “Will it restore the confidence of gym goers here or suffer the same fate as Y Fitness??”
KC // Feb 9, 2009 at 1:02 AM
Hi Oriental Poet,
I just joined Core Fitness @ City Mall yesterday, everything seems ok there. The most they charge 1 year – RM1200, 12 month contract @ Rm150 – pay 1st month & last 2 months + RM 90 = total of RM540 then monthly RM 150 until the 10th month then renew rate at RM150 and 1 month RM180 Non contract.
I personally took the RM1200. Met their Boss Mr. CK Tan, he's a owner of several business in KK. So i got the confident to join.
Ethan n Danny is back to KK now. I think not much to worry, they even give free hand towel when sign up, is better than last time. I can't find any gym in kk provide more facilities in that good price in kk so i joined Core Fitness. You should go and check it out.
Judy // / / Mar 4, 2009 at 10:48 AM
The company that took over Yogazone 's operation in Plaza Damas and Kepong is called Urbanyoga. We were told that as ex members /life time members we could enjoy the special rate of RM88 per month. If we were life members then we were allowed for 3 years.
On March 1st they decided to change the rule again, saying that the company will not honour this . This pledge was not made by them.
Anyone knows what can be done.!
Being cheated again.
Judy
lanhwa // Mar 6, 2009 at 10:45 AM
Judy,
This is the minority shareholder, Lay Gaik, to snatched the business from the founder followed by keep on changing entity and not to honour the previous membership. You will never know how cunning is this woman as she successfully using RM 600,000 to swallow three outlets, now the these outlets were sold to TSM, another entity which apparently is related to Lay Gaik.
If Mun likes to mention about the bad apple, this is the worst ever apple you can find in Malaysia fitness and wellness scene.
The new rule is “ALL MEMBERS WILL BE CHARGED FOR RM 168 MONTHLY!”,stupid, higher than fitness first one club membership fees, I believe that she's too big headed to carry on this business.
Good luck to all!
Rosey // Apr 10, 2009 at 8:43 PM
I used to be a member of Y Fitness. I joined this club with full confidence in early 2008. I even signed up for a personal training membership. All in all I spent about RM3,000 for a year membership. However, 2 or 3 months down the road, the centre starts to show signs of bad management and maintenance. There was always no water for showering and we signed a petition on that and the management did nothing!! I had hardly use the membership and not even 2 months into my personal training, I was informed that the centre is closing down. Worst of all, the bank is still charging me the installment. I filed a claim to the managing company of this case in KL and a copy of my claim has been sent to my bank and this was in September 2008. From then till now, nothing has been done and I don't even know if I can ever get back my money!!!
Now that Core Fitness is opened, I have been receiving numerous calls from them to get me to go back. Honestly, do you think for an ex member who has already had a bad experience with the previous fitness centre would actually want to sign back again even though the management people are totally different? Let me tell you, until today I have hugely refused to go back simply because I have spent about RM3,000 before and I can't even get back a single cent and I am encouraged to go back??? My confidence in a new fitness centre in KK has dropped to beyond zero. They do not even come up with a special or different package to entice the old members to come back. What a bad marketing strategy!
Anti Cheater // / / Apr 11, 2009 at 2:05 AM
they are all cheater, enuf said… throw the cunning y fitness to hell
Rosey // Sep 7, 2009 at 11:39 AM
My last phone conversation with Ferrier Hodgson was in earlier of this year and till now nothing has been done and not a single word from them. WILL I EVER GET BACK MY MONEY, WHICH HAS ALREADY BEEN PAID IN FULL TO Y FITNESS ????
Stef // ステフ / / Dec 8, 2009 at 10:35 AM 2009年12月8日10:35午前
Hi, Is this issue still active? I have recently been subject to some questionable behaviour from one of the largest chains. Is there another website/ location where these things are actively discussed?
Stef