The Truth Behind Yoga Zone's Problem and The Road Ahead For Other Fitness Centers 진실 요가 구역의 문제와도 험난해 기타 휘트니스 센터를위한 뒤에

I'm life time member of Yogazone. 내가 Yogazone의 생활 시간을 멤버에요.

It's not true that the yoga clubs are no longer operating, i just backed from the class in one yogaclub outlet. 그것은 요가 클럽 더이상 운영, 난 그냥 yogaclub 클래스에서 하나의 콘센트에 백업하는 사실이 아니에요. There are classes everyday. 매일 수업이있습니다. Yogazone do not declare bankruptcy till now, too early to define it's bad apple in fitness industry. Yogazone 지금까지 파산을 선언하지 않으면, 너무 피트니스 업계에 나쁜 사과를 정의하는 초기.

the gym i work out at..in bangsar village is getting quite bad too.. 헬스 내가 bangsar 마을에서 .. 꽤 나쁘지도 .. 점점 해결 things dont work ie the showers, sauna, steam room, gym equipment, bicycles etc. Even the class instructors mic dont function properly which is absurd! 일을 해달라고 작업 즉, 샤워, 사우나, 스팀 룸, 헬스 장비, 자전거 등도 수업 강사 마이크 기능을 제대로하지 말아 어떤 말도 안돼! How hard is it to get proper mic? 얼마나 힘들 적절한 마이크를 무엇입니까?
and last week i saw a notice stating that the operation hours is now only until 10pm. 지난 주에 공지가 작업 시간은 지금까지 오후 10시에만 나타 보았다. when i signed up the guarantee was 6am to 12midnight every weekday…yet they still charge the same fees. 내가 보증 가입 12midnight 매일 오전 6시에 평일 ... 아직 그들은 여전히 동일한 수업료를 부과했다.

lets hope this one doesnt go belly up like the others. 이 나던 다른 사람처럼 배를 올라갈 희망이있습니다.

A nice article to reveal the truth of Yoga Zone's financial crisis. 좋은 기사 요가 지대의 금융 위기의 진실을 공개합니다. The founder (TJ) has spoilt the good name of Yoga Zone and caused it became the bad apple in fitness industry. 설립자 (TJ가) 요가 지대의 좋은 이름 버릇이 그리고 피트니스 업계에서 나쁜 된 사과를 일으켰습니다.

It is true that a lot of people lost confidence or no longer trust easily in the fitness centers. 그것은 많은 사람이나 피트니스 센터에서 더이상 신뢰를 쉽게 자신감을 잃은 사실이다. I considered myself lucky as yet to sign up the life time member. 저도 아직 평생 회원 가입 운이 좋은 생각했습니다. I lost RM1,588 membership which was just renewed 2 months ago. 내가 RM1, 이제 막 2 개월 전에 일어났다 588 회원 자격 박탈.

Agreed that many customers ran into problems after signing the membership contracts. 많은 고객이 문제에 회원 계약을 체결 후 도망 동의한다. I have also signed up a year membership with California Fitness early this year due to a good corporate rate been offered to our company. 또한 올해는 일찍 좋은 기업 비율로 인해 우리 회사에 제공되어 캘리포니아 피트니스와 함께 1 년 회원으로 가입하셨습니다. However, was being approached and convinced that it was a need to sign up the personal training package when I activated my membership. 그러나, 접근 받고 그것에 필요한 개인 훈련 패키지를 내 회원 가입이 활성화됐다 확신했다. As a result, I paid additional RM1,500+ for a 12 sessions personal training. 결과적으로, 난 추가 RM1, 500 유료 + 12 세션에 대한 개인적인 훈련입니다. Guess what I got? 이게 뭐게? My trainer always not turning up since the 2nd session with last minute sms with the reasons overslept, late caught in the traffic jam, last minute appoitment and etc. I suppose to complete the training within 3 months with once a week as planned. 내 트레이너는 항상 이유로, 늦은 교통 체증, 그리고 마지막 순간에 잡힌 appoitment 늦잠과 막판 SMS와 제 2 세션 이후 최대를 돌리지 않는 등 지난 3 개월 이내에 훈련을 완성하기 위해 일주일에 한 번와 계획대로 같아요. But have dragged till now for 5 months and yet to finish and not meeting expected result due to inconsistent training. 하지만 지금은 5 개월 동안 아직 완성 예상 결과가 일관성이 훈련으로 인해 만나지 않을 때까지 끌고있다. I tried to request for refund or change of trainer but was told not allowed and no way I can complain to the management. 제가 환불 또는 트레이너의 변경을 요청했지만 내가 관리에게 불평을 할 수있는 방법은 허용되지 들었다. Too bad…. 아쉽네. This will be my good experience and will never sign up any personal training with California Fitness. 이건 내 좋은 경험이 될 것입니다 캘리포니아 휘트니스 클럽과 개인 훈련에 가입하지 않습니다.

Hi Fei, 안녕하세요 Fei,

The YZ outlets will be closed tomorrow and no idea whether it will be continued until the meeting on Mon. YZ 콘센트 내일 전혀 여부 월요일 회의까지 계속 될이 폐쇄가 될 것입니다. I went to the Cheras Plaza outlet this noon and saw that the store room was opened but all the gymballs, air pump and straps are gone and some of the mats in the studios also been taken. 내가 Cheras 플라자 콘센트에이 정오에 가서 그 창고를 열었지만, 모든 gymballs, 공기 펌프 및 스트랩과 사라 본 몇몇은 또한 옮겨졌 스튜디오에서 매트있다. Computer also disappeared (no idea where it gone). 컴퓨터도 (아무 생각이 어디로 사라) 사라 졌어요. If the receiver has the intention to continue, they should keep or look after all these equipments as it is part of the company properties/assets. 만약 수신기, 그들은 계속해야한다를 계속할지 또는 보이는 의도를 가지고 이러한 모든 장비를 이후로 회사의 속성의 일부입니다 / 자산. Otherwise, they will have to spend some money on it when re-open. 그렇지 않으면, 그들은 그것을 다시 열 때 돈을 지출해야한다.

I tried to be positive and really hoping for good news. 나는 긍정적인 려다가 정말 좋은 소식 기대. But in reality, this is the fact we have to face. 하지만 현실이 우리가 직면해야하는 사실입니다. Found some of YZ's teachers already start teaching at these yoga centers. 일부 YZ의 교사는 이미 이러한 요가 센터에서 강의를 시작 발견. Will update few more later as just went for another few more yoga centers at Kuchai Lama this afternoon. 더 나중에 같은 단지 Kuchai 라마 또 다른 몇 가지 더 요가 센터는 오늘 오후에 가서 몇 가지 업데이 트됩니다. Have a nice weekend and awaiting good news from the receiver next week. 좋은 주말 되세요 및 수신기에서 좋은 소식을 기다리고 다음주.

Hi Yoga Lover, 안녕하세요 요가 연인,

Let's wait and see, we should know the outcome after the Monday afternoon meeting. 이 기다려 보자, 우리는 결과를 알아야 할 일 오후 회의를했다.

I know you've been running around recently for garner all these info, I really appreciate all info you given. 내가 최근 이러한 정보 획득에 대한 주위를 실행했는지 알고, 난 정말 당신이 모든 정보를 주어 감사합니다.

Meaning there will be no classes tomorrow? 의미없는 수업은 내일있을 것인가? How about Monday? 월요일은 어때요?
I do wish that classes will go on….. 수업에 갈 것입니다 ... .. 으면 좋겠다

Hi Rain, 안녕하세요 비,

There are classes tomorrow (24 Aug 2008). 수업이 내일 (2008년 8월 24일)입니다. You can check it out from the website timetable. 당신의 웹사이트에서 시간표를 확인할 수있습니다.

Wow. 와우. That's terrible. 끔찍 하군요. I'm so glad I have never exerienced something like this at a gym I have been a member of. 나는 그래서 내가의 회원이되었습니다 체육관에서 이런 exerienced 절대 게 기뻐요. However, I have never been a member of a gym chain – just the local council supported gym and my university gym. 그러나, 나는 헬스 클럽 체인 구성원 적이 없소 - 그냥 지역 협의회 내 대학 체육관 체육관에서 지원. Maybe that is why. 아마도 그 이유는 무엇입니까.

Hi Rain, 안녕하세요 비,

Sorry for wrong information, the classes are on today @ 9:30am and 10:45am at all outlets except Sri Petaling and The Weld. 잘못된 정보 죄송 해요, 오늘 수업에 9시 반 @ 오전 10시 45분 스리랑카 Petaling 및 용접을 제외한 모든 매장에서 오전있습니다. Please check from Yoga Zone's website – 요가 영역의 웹 사이트에서 확인하시기 바랍니다 - http://www.yogazone.com.my/timetable.php http://www.yogazone.com.my/timetable.php

Hi Fei, 안녕하세요 Fei,

Thanks for the correction and glad to see you here and also at yogalover88. 보정과 다행 주셔서 감사합니다 여기 또한 yogalover88에서 당신을 볼 수있습니다.

Hi Yoga Lover, 안녕하세요 요가 연인,

Yes, I went to Tmn Desa's Sunday 9:30am class. 그래, 난 Tmn Desa 일요일 오전 9시 반 교실로 갔다. However this morning I went to the 7am class, there was no one to open the studio for us, all the students and teacher were left standing outside….sad 하지만 오늘 아침 오전 7시 수업에 가서, 거기에 우리 스튜디오 오픈은 아무도, 모든 학생과 교사가 밖에 서서 남았다 ... 그랬어요. 슬퍼

Hi Rain, 안녕하세요 비,

Sorry to hear that nobody opened the outlet for classes this morning. 아무도 오늘 아침에 수업을위한 콘센트에 연 유감. In fact, the relevant party aware of this matter and they are trying their best to coordinate it. 사실,이 문제에 대해 관련 당사자의 인식 그리고 그들은 그것을 조정할 자신의 최선을 다하고있습니다.

Hi Yoga Lover, 안녕하세요 요가 연인,

No issues, as I know that YZG is struggling to survive through this trouble time although for all of us to come to this point is rather sad. 아니 문제, 내가 그 YZG 비록이 문제가 시간을 통해 우리 모두를 위해이 시점에 와서 살아남기 위해 고군분투 알고 오히려 더 슬픈 것. However I am worried if Yoga Zone will ever make it. 만약 요가 구역도 그것을 할 것입니다하지만 난 걱정입니다. Do you know what is the outcome after the 10 days Receivership? 뭘 10 일 법정 관리 후 결과에 있는지 아세요? Will Yoga Zone operations continue? 윌 요가 지대 작업을 계속하시겠습니까? Or is everything is still in the air like the past few months. 아니면 모든 게 아직 공중에 지난 몇 달 정도이다.

Do hope that things will work out, but for my health sake – I think I still need to ensure that my workout is not continuously interrupted. 하지만, 희망 일이 잘 될거야 내 건강을 위해서 - 난 아직 내 운동을 지속적으로 중단되지 않도록 할 것.

Hi Rain, 안녕하세요 비,

There are some information about other yoga studios in Cheas and Kucai Entrepreneur Park for reference in case YZ really not to continue…. 여기 참조 Cheas 및 Kucai 기업가 공원에서 다른 요가 스튜디오에 대한 몇 가지 정보를 계속해서 사건을 YZ에 정말없습니다 ....

In fact, nothing much from the meeting yesterday as it was mainly discuss about the teachers and staffs' outstanding salaries, epf, socso and income tax matters. 사실 회의에서, 아무것도 어제만큼 많이 주로 교사와 직원 '뛰어난 급여, epf, socso와 소득세 문제에 대해 논의했다합니다. However, there will be another meeting next week and hope to hear good news. 그러나, 다른 회의 다음주 것입니다 좋은 소식을 듣고 싶습니다.

Please continue your yoga practice no matter what happened to YZ as we know it nenefits to our health. 귀하의 요가 연습으로 우리가 알고있는 어떤 YZ에 일이있어도 계속해서 우리의 건강에 nenefits. Cheers ^-^ 건배 ^ - ^

Hi Yoga Lover, 안녕하세요 요가 연인,

I am looking, Cheras is too far for me. 내가보고있는 오전 Cheras 날 너무 멀리위한 것입니다. Kuchai Entrepreneur Park have a few but none of them offer 7am classes, I prefer morning classes to get my workout out of the way then head to work. Kuchai 기업가 공원 몇 가지 있지만 그들 중 누구도 오전 7시 수업을 제공하고, 내가 방법 그리고 나서 내 운동 나가 일을 머리를 아침에 수업을 선호했다. Also at KEP, in the evening the area is quite noisy as cars are parked unruly over there causing congestion and lots of honking – it will be hard to concentrate with all the distraction. 또한 KEP에서, 저녁에는 지역에 꽤 시끄러운로 차를 주차저기서 정체를 일으키는 무질서와 빵 많이 - 모든주의와 집중이 어려운 것입니다.

I have only found 1 place that offer 7am classes close by, that is Myoga however morning classes are usually Hot class with one or two Basic Pilates during the week….at the moment, I cannot find a yoga center that could give the variety of classes like Yoga Zone (especially the morning classes)… 난 단지를 제공하는 수업을 오전 7시 주변에 의해, 그러나 그 Myoga 아침 수업 일반적으로 하나 또는 두 개의 기본 필라테스 주 동안 .... 그 순간에, 내가 그 다양성을 줄 수 요가 센터를 찾을 수없습니다와 온천 클래스입니다 1 곳이 발견 요가 지대 (특히 아침 수업)과 같은 수업을 ..

Have not experienced anything like this at the gym I frequent, thank God. 내가 자주 체육관에서 이런 일이 발생하지 않았 하나님 감사합니다. But I think the possibility of this happening to any fitness centres is very real, even established ones. 그러나 나는이 어떤 피트니스 센터에 일어날 가능성이 매우 현실이다, 심지어 설립 사람 같아요. So I guess the best way not to become a victim is: 그래서 피해자가되기위한 가장 좋은 방법은 아닌 거 같아요있습니다 :
1. 1. Do not pay for lifetime memberships. 평생 회원 가입 비용을 지불하지 마십시오. Pay the monthly fees only. 에만 매달 요금을 지불합니다.
2. 2. Join fitness centres of international brand, ie. 국제적인 브랜드, 즉 피트니스 센터에 가입하세요. originated from overseas and which have many branches worldwide and with good track record. 해외에서 유래 및 전세계 여러 가지 좋은 기록도 가지고있다.

Hi Yoga Lover, 안녕하세요 요가 연인,
I also face the same problem with my Personal Trainer. 나는 또한 내 개인 트레이너와 같은 문제가 얼굴을. Always late and giving all kinds of excuses not showing up for my training. 항상 늦게 변명의 모든 종류의 내 교육에 대한 포기가 게재되지 않습니다. Most important is the attitude she gives like don't care about my training program, which really pisses me off. 처럼 어느 날 정말 화나게 내 훈련 프로그램에 대한 상관 없어 가장 중요한 것은 그녀가주는 태도이다. Luckily I only signup for 4 session, sayonara to her now I will not signup PT anymore. 다행히 난 단지 4 세션, 그녀가 이제 더이상 태평양 표준시 가입되지 않습니다 사요나라 가입. This is at California Fitness btw. 이것은 캘리포니아 휘트니스 클럽 btw이다.

dpegasus, totally understand how that feels, I was a member of California Fitness before and yes I signed up for their Personal Training sessions….that is why now though Myoga is my closest Yoga place, I'm still thinking and thinking since Myoga and California Fitness are sister company. 난 아직 생각 중이야 dpegasus, 정말 그 기분을 이해하기 전에 캘리포니아 휘트니스 클럽의 회원 그래 난 그들의 개인 트레이닝 세션에 서명했다 .... 그 이유는 지금은 비록 내 가까운 요가 Myoga 곳입니다 그리고 이후 Myoga 생각 캘리포니아 휘트니스 클럽 언니 회사. Since there is no PT sessions by Myoga – its not that bad??? 이후에는 Myoga 의해 태평양 표준시 세션입니다 -는 그렇게 나쁘지 않아???

Is there anything we as cheated members can do to recover our money paid upfront? 우리가으로서 회원 돈을 회수하려면 선불 지불 할 수있는 사기 없나요? How can we allow conmen like this TJ fellow to go unpunished. 우리가 어떻게 할 수 있도록 처벌이 TJ가 사람처럼 conmen. Y Fitness was still selling membership and life membership 1 day before closing shop in Klang branch. Y 휘트니스 아직도 지점 Klang에 가게를 닫기 전에 회원 및 생명 회원 1 일 판매했다. This is definately the work of a conman and we must not let him go easily. 이것은 확실히 conman의 작품이며 우리는 그를 쉽게 놓아하지 않아야합니다. Is there someone who can shed some light into this and help us recover our hard earned money? 누가 이런 상황에 도움이 되거 수 있고 우리가 힘들게 벌어서 돈을 복구하는 데 도움 사람이 있나요?

I actually renewed my membership for another year a few months ago (i think in may)…and from what i have been reading, they have been going through some problems at this time already?! 난 사실 년은 몇 개월 전에 내 회원 갱신 (난있습니다) 생각 ... 그리고 내가 무슨 책을 읽고부터, 그들이 시간은 이미 몇 가지 문제를 겪고있는가?!

but because of work commitments, i couldn't “activate” it yet…. 작업을 약속하지만, 왜냐면, 난 그럴 수 없다 ""에 활성화는 아직 ....

but since then, i have been paying every month. 하지만 그때 이후로, 내가 매달 지불하고있다. what is going to happen to the remaining months??? 뭐 나머지 개월 일어날 무엇입니까???

is there a way we can get a refund for this? 우리가이 환불받을 수있는 방법은 무엇입니까?

*sob*… * 흐느껴 울다 * ...

I heard that there will be a meeting held in Klang this Friday 5th Sept, where and what time I'm not sure. 나는 거기에 회의를 이번 주 금요일 9월 5일, Klang에서 열릴 예정 들었 어디에 있는지 확실하지 않습니다 몇시. I do not know what is this meeting is about, as I know they have been holding lots of meeting with the teachers not once did they include us (their clients). 내가이 회의를 모르 대한, 제가 선생님들은 한번도 그들은 우리가 (자신의 클라이언트)를 포함 않았다 함께 많은 회의를 들고 있었다는 걸 알고. I think they like to leave us in the dark, guessing or worse make us hope for miracle. 그들은 어둠 속에서 우리를 떠나지 추측처럼 나쁜 생각이나 우리가 기적을 희망합니다. I think the least they could do is give us a brief update, its a common courtesy. 나는 그들이 우리를 잠시 업데이 트를, 자사의 일반적인 관례 주면 할 수있는 최소한 같아요.

Frankly I have given up on Yoga Zone, I do not believe we could get our money back at all. 솔직히 요가 지대에 대한 포기, 난 우리가 다시는 전혀 돈을받을 수 있으리라 생각하지 않습니다. However if the members would like to group together to highlight to higher authority – I'm in. 그러나 만약 회원과 같은 것이라고하는 그룹이 함께 더 높은 권위에 하이라이트 - 난 할래

Don't mean to be harsh but frankly I'm fed up. 가혹한 될 건 아니지만 솔직히 이젠 싫증나요.

That is why IHRSA has such guidelines/standards like these (Standard #4): 그래서 IHRSA과 같은 지침을 가지고있다 /이 (표준 # 4)과 같은 표준 :
http://www.healthclubs.com/choosing/body8.html http://www.healthclubs.com/choosing/body8.html

to protect us consumers from being taken for a ride by irresponsible health clubs. 우리로부터 소비자를 보호하기 위해 무책임한 헬스 클럽에 의해 태워 취해지고. All these lifetime memberships/prepaid memberships are unfair to us. 이러한 모든 평생 회원 / 선불 구성원을 우리에게 불공평합니다. What happens if we have some sort of injury, or can't exercise for a long period of time? 만약 우리가, 또는 부상의 일종 가지고 오랜 시간 동안 운동을 안 할 수 어떻게됩니까? Or what happens if we simply lose interest in exercising? 만약 우리가 단순히 운동에 흥미를 잃게 아니면 무슨 일이? What happens to our money then? 왜 우리가 돈을 그럼 어떻게됩니까?

This is how some of these clubs make money. 이것은 어떤 이들 클럽의 돈을 벌 수있습니다. They cash in on the fact that you'll quit first before your membership expires. 사실은 귀하의 멤버십이 만료되기 전에 당신이 먼저 그만 둘게요에서 그들은 현금. But unfortunately in this case, Yoga Zone quit first. 하지만 불행히도이 사건에서 처음 요가 지대를 종료합니다.

I have been waiting for you to post this article. 당신이이 문서를 게시하려면 기다리고있다. Well as an ex employee and lucky me as i got my salary due to consistently bugging them for my unpaid salary. 뿐만 아니라 전 직원과 내가 내 월급 내 월급 미지급 지속적으로 도청 때문에 그들에게있어처럼 운이 좋지.

I am happy and of course sympathize with what the company is going through now. 난 행복 해요 물론 회사가 지금 겪고있다가 안됐군. I am a little dissapointed when i found out there is not much control on budgeting and how they run the business..'ethically'. 내가 어릴 때 거기에 대한 예산별로 제어 및 그들이 어떻게 비즈니스 .. '실행됩니다 발견 dissapointed 오전 윤리적'. Im not gonna say much here on that. 임 여기가 훨씬 그 일을 말하지 않을거야. Not that they do something illegally. 아니 그들이 불법적으로 일을. But its a good company that i have contributed and learn so much from my previous supervisor. 하지만 그 좋은 회사에 기여하고 내가 너무 내 이전에 감독관으로부터 배웁니다. I bet she have yet to get her salary. 난 그녀가 아직 월급을 가야 겠지.

The main thing is the constant delay in payment. 중요한 것은 지불 일정 지연됩니다. It could easily drag up to 6 months to my surprise. 쉽게 6 개월 내 놀랄까지 드래그 수있습니다. I've seen all the good employees leave one by one…leaving some departments totally empty… unpaid EPF – i would just leave as it is. 나는 좋은 직원을 본적이있어도 ... 어떤 부서는 완전히 비어있는 .. 무료 epf - 그냥두고 떠날만큼 하나두고있습니다. Countless complaint to the labor law offices, EPF departments just dont seem to be effective. 노동 법률 사무소 수많은 불만, epf 부서 해달 효과가있을 것으로 보인다. No offense but i just dont seem to have faith in they way the gov departments handle such matters. 아니 미안하지만, 난 그냥 해달라고 그들이 방법을 gov로 부서와 같은 믿음을 가지고 문제를 처리할 것으로 보인다.

Now in the hand of receivership, all existing employees probably only about 4 of them could not report to work, its the same as being unemployed or retrenched. 이 법정의 손을 이제, 기존의 모든 직원이 아마도 약 4 그들의 일을, 그 같은 실업자되고 또는 retrenched보고하지 않을 수있습니다. We dont know the outcome yet till now. 우리는 지금까지 아직 결과는 잘 모릅니다. All i can say is 'the amount owed' is far more than you could ever imagine now. 내가 말할 수있는 '금액'빚진까지 어느 때보다 지금은 상상 이상이다.

Can anyone tell me where and when is the meeting on Friday? 아무도 말해 줄 수 언제 어디 일 회의를 무엇입니까? We need to organize ourselves and take action on this type of con. 우리 자신을 구성하고 죄수 이런 종류의 조치를 취할 필요합니다. Our government is not doing anything either… 우리 정부 역시 아무것도 아니지만 ...

i got to know frm yoga zone zone kepong that need to pay aditional rm88 to be a member. 내가 FRM은 요가 영역에 영역이 필요 aditional rm88 지불 kepong 알고 구성원이어야 해. i paid rm1188 to join y fitness brem mall but got to know the club is not opening. 내가 아까 피트니스 brem 쇼핑몰에 가입 rm1188 지불하지만, 클럽 오프닝 아니라는 것을 알고있어. how can i get back my money???? 내가 어떻게 내 돈 돌려받을 수 있나요????

Hi Nita/Tony, 안녕하세요 니타 / 토니,

All has been done and further complained would not work much as upon High Court Order, the company is being assessed by receivership with no interruption. 모두 완료되었습니다 자세한 고등 법원은 주문에 따라 얼마만큼 작동하지 않을 것이라고 불평, 회사는 법정 관리에 의해 아무런로 평가되고있다. We just have to wait and see…i guess…. 우린 그냥 기다려 보자 ... 내 생각이 ....

Hiya. 안녕. Does anyone know whether the Comfort Zone is under the same mgt or a different one? 누구 여부를 편안한 공간에서 동일한 MGT 중이거나 다른 사람이 알고 있나요? I signed up for the massage service (which goes by the hour) and have about 7 hours of unclaimed massage time. 난 마사지 서비스에 가입 (어느 시간에 의해) 공시 소에 가서 마사지 시간 약 7 시간 남았습니다. Is there any way I could get my money back? 내가 내 돈 돌려받을 수있는 방법이 있나요? If it's under a different management, could someone give me the number, please? 만약 다른 관리를 받고, 누군가가 나에게 전화 번호, 제발 줄 수 있을까?

Comfort Zone is under Yoga Zone.. 컴포트 존 요가 구역을 받고있다 .. Under YZ, we have Comfort Zone, Yoga Zone/Club Itself and Y Fitness. YZ에서, 우리는 컴포트 존, 요가 지대 / 클럽 그 자체와 Y 휘트니스있다. YZ Academy could be consider as well. YZ 아카데미있을뿐만 아니라 고려할 수있습니다. Its a separate brand entity but all parked under YZ. 자사의 브랜드를 별도 법인이지만 모든 YZ 아래에 주차. Nalla, i dont think they will open up Comfort Zone anytime soon. Nalla, 난 그에게 그들은 언제든지 편안 시간대 빨리 열어 것. Perhaps u just need to wait and see for ur unclaimed massage time. U 아마도 그냥 기다 리면서 시간을 통해 UR 공시 소에 마사지를 참조해야합니다. Maybe u could change the 7 hours into a yoga class session PROVIDED that there are staff attending to your probs. 아마 U 요가 클래스를 세션에 거기 직원 probs에 참석 제공 7 시간을 변경할 수있습니다.

There is no staff managing Comfort Zone now whats more in Yoga Zone itself, except for the receivership. 아무 직원 관리 컴포트 존 지금은 법정 관리를 제외하고 요가 구역 자체에 더 많은 뭐죠입니다. They would not entertain till they have come out with a solution on YZ sustainability. YZ 때까지 지속 가능성에 대한 해결책을 함께 와서 그들은 즐거움을 안 것이다.

I also go to YZ in Taman Desa and last week, the centre got splashed with red paint again! 또한 YZ에 Taman Desa 지난 주, 중앙 가지고 가서 빨간 페인트를 다시 뿌리지! :( : (

There was class on Mon, 8-Sep but none on Tues, 9-Sep and none today also as checked from the website. 월요일에는 수업였다 8 9월지만, 화 9 - 9월 그리고 아무도 아무도 오늘은 또한 웹 사이트에서 확인. I noticed there are classes for the YZ Damas and Kepong branches. 거기 수업 YZ 다마스와 Kepong 지점에있는 것으로 나타났습니다.

Does anyone know if classes will resume at the Taman Desa branch? 만약 수업 Taman Desa 지점에서 다시 시작합니다 아는 사람 있나요? Are we allowed to go for classes at the Damas and Kepong branches? 우리가 수업 다마스와 Kepong 지점에 갈 수 있습니까?

I miss my daily yoga classes! 내가 매일 요가 수업을 그리워! :( : (

i really feel sad when i heard that yz the weld is no more class.what is going on n who can talk to us the true??// 난 정말 슬플 때 용접 더 class.what입니다 YZ 듣고 느끼는 우리에게 진정한 얘기할 수 n 일이야?? / /

if there any hope to get back my money ? 거기에 어떤 희망이 내 돈을 돌려받을 경우? i just signed for the lifetime member :( who can advise me wat to do ? 난 그냥 평생 회원 서명 : (누가 날 어떻게 와트 조언을 수 있나요?

I also noticed from their website that there were no classes for the past couple of days.. 나는 또한 그들의 웹사이트가 거기에서 이틀 지난 몇 ... 대한 수업을 발견 I have just signed up a renewal too.. 난 그냥 갱신이 너무 .. 최대 서명 :( : (
Also I heard there's some sort of committee formed by the members on this matter. 또한 거기위원회 회원들이이 문제에 대한 일종의 형성이 들었어요. Any idea how we could contact them? 모든 아이디어를 우리가 어떻게 그들이 연락을 수 있을까? I think the bigger the voice the better chance we have (to get something back?)… 나는 우리가 더 큰 목소리가 더 나은 기회를 (다시 뭔가를 얻을 생각은?) ...

i am another sucker who signed up for a YZ life membership in may 2008. 난 누가 YZ 생명 일 수있다는 2008 년 회원에 가입한 다른 흡입기입니다. i think this guy TJ is a big crook. 내가 생각하는 TJ가 큰 사기꾼이 남자. they had the special promotion for life membership in april/may, got everyone to sign up and then just ran off with the money. 그들은 지난 4 월 인생을 회원에 대한 특별 승진했다 / 그리고 그냥 돈 달아 가입 모두 가지고있습니다. if you ask me, his tears are just crocodile tears! 내게 묻는다면, 자신의 눈물을 그냥 악어의 눈물! we may never get our money back but don't think you got away with anything TJ, your karma is going to come back and bite you one day. 하지만 우리는 다시 우리의 돈을 결코받지 못할 수도있습니다 떨어져 티제이, 당신의 운명을 다시 와서 언젠가는 네가 물린 것 같이있어 아무것도 생각하지 않습니다.

are you another f#cking freak or preeps, don't even know the situation and claims you know everything. 당신은 또 다른 F, 심지어 상황과 모든 것을 알고 주장 모르겠 괴물이나 preeps 요리하는 #있습니다. Guess you're just another f#cking preeps. 당신은 단지 또 다른 F # 요리하는 preeps 보군. Whatever you say will haunt you a lifetime if the things you say is not true. 무슨 말을하는 경우 것들을 사실이 아니에요 당신이 평생 머무를 것이라고.

Guess all the bitches wants to swindle the yoga zone and force the owner to leave. 모든 암캐 맞춰 요가 영역을 사기 위해 떠난 주인이 강제로 원하는. But beware, god knows whatever they are doing. 하지만, 하나님이 그들이 무엇이든 알고 조심하고있습니다. If caught in the wrong, will burnt in hell. 만약 잘못 지옥에서 불에 예정에 잡힌.

the best part was everyone seem to run away after all this…earlier they called us bugging to sign up…i signed up in jusco kepong for y fitness…what the F**k….i remember few ppl calling and buggin' me…jeane and jane….now MIA….i just curse them…. 가장 중요한 부분 떨어진 곳에서 사람이 이후에 실행하는 것 ... 그들은 우리가 도청 이전에 가입 .. 제가 전화 저스코에 y를 피트니스 ...은 F ** 케이 .... 내가 몇 ppl 귀찮게 전화를 걸어 '내가 무엇을 기억하기 kepong 가입 ... jeane 제인 .... 지금은 미아 .... 난 그저 그들의 저주 ....

ya,i sign up y-yitness package also. 나중에, 내가 가입 y를 최대 - yitness 패키지에는. they tell will opening on august, but finally din also. 그들은 것입니다 8 월 개설,하지만 마침내도 귀를 멍멍하게 말해. tattime i felt cheated,if the company really faced financial problem, why still want promote cheaper package to us. 만약 회사가 정말, 왜 아직도 우리보다 저렴한 패키지를 추진하려는 금융 문제에 직면 tattime 난 속인, 느꼈다. since do that, i just can say they got heart want cheat our money and take our money go away. 이후, 난 단지 그들의 마음을 우리가 돈을 뜯어내 원하는 걸 얻었을 떠나 우리가 돈을 가지고 말할 수 없어. i'm so angry because my payment still charge by bank every month. 은행에서 지불하기 때문에 아직 요금은 매월 정말 화가 나. someone consultant of checking this company suggest i go report police, because this one is cheat case. 왜냐하면이 사건이 바람을 피웠다는이 회사의 확인의 컨설턴트로 내가 누군가를보고 경찰에 가서하는 것이 좋습니다.

I and my fren jz join up y fitness at jinjang there. 난 내 fren JZ 이미 jinjang에서 y를 적합성을 맺다. There r nt yet open.. 저기 r에 NT를 아직 오픈 .. Who can tell me wat can i do? 누가 와트 내가 할 수있는 날 알 수 있나요? I cant get back my money.. 내 돈 돌려 질수 ... cant stop the monthly instalment at bank.. 질수 은행에서 .. 월별 분할 중지 im helpless… 쓸모 메신저 ...

Is ok, I heard rumours about some operation manageress and teachers who use to work there took over the whole operation network. 그런가, 내가 어떤 작업을 지배인, 그리고 거기에 모든 작업을 네트워크를 통해 작품을 사용했다 교사에 대한 루머를 들었어요. And also a lady would put in some monies to help with the operation. 또한 여자가 어떤 돈도의 작업에 도움을 놓는 게 좋을것 같습니다. They promise to open and get all members some freebies. 그들은 열 것을 약속하고 모든 구성원이 좀 공짜 좀. Just be patient. 조금만 기다려주세요. If they don't open then look them up for refund. 만약 그들이 연 다음 않아 환불들을 봐. If still can't find them then look up some feedback from other members. 만약 아직도 그들이 다음 몇 가지 다른 회원들로부터 의견을 좀 찾을 수없습니다. Hope this will help. 희망이 도움이됩니다. I heard this from one of those operation manageress who had a meeting a few days back. 나는 그 작업에서 누가 몇 일간 다시 회의를했다 지배인이 들었어요. She said they would operate with a new company name but they will refund whatever owing to the members 그녀는 그들이 새로운 회사 이름으로 운영하는 것이 아니라 그들이 원하는 인하여 회원에게 환불된다

Funny, how could onceAyoga get your salary when all others don't. 재미있은, 어떻게하면 다른 모든 onceAyoga하지 않는 월급을받을 수있습니다. Something fishy is going on here. 뭔가 비린내가 여기에 가고있습니다. Wonder if TJ know about you getting your salary. 원더 경우 TJ가 당신 월급 방법에 대해 알아. I think TJ has been blame wrongly. 제가 잘못되었습니다 TJ가 틀린 것 같아요. Find the truth please or god will fine you. 제발 진실 혹은 신이 괜찮 것을 발견했습니다.

I got hold of my salary way before the problems starts to aggravate on the heavier side. 내 월급이 방법의 문제가되기 전에 무거운 측면에서 시작 악화를 구했어요. Thank god i leave on time and push my way for my salary when HR and few other management people are still there. 신이여, 난 감사 시간에두고 내 월급에 대한 내 방식으로 추진 할 때 몇 가지 인사와 다른 관리들이 아직 거기에있습니다. Those who are still with them after i left began to get delay payment and now no payment of their salary. 내가 떠난 후에 그 사람 아직도 그들과 지연을 결제를하고 지금은 자신의 월급을 전혀 지불하기 시작했다. I dont get my EPF payment though. 그래도 난 내 epf 결제 좀 말아. So lucky me. 그래서 내가 운이. Whether TJ has done wrongly or not, i am not sure. TJ가 잘못이든 아니든 다있다, 난 잘 모르겠습니다. The receivership is having a hard time finding an investor to help them. 이 법정 그들을 돕기 위해 투자자를 찾는 힘든 시간을 보내고있다. Please be prepare for the worst. 제발 최악의 준비됩니다. As for Y Fitness, if centro management took it over and run on their own, there might be hope. Y 휘트니스 클럽에 대한 정 관리 마치 그것을 점령하고 자신의 실행, 거기에 희망이 될 수도있습니다. Christine, i would suggest to put urself in an neutral position. 크리스틴, 난 중립적인 위치에 urself 넣어 것을 제안했다.

hey christine, why are you taking this so personally? 크리스틴 이봐, 왜 이렇게 개인적으로 데려가는거야? most of us are upset with yogazone because we cannot get our money back. 왜냐면 우리는 다시 우리가 돈을받을 수 없다 우리가 대부분의 yogazone 화가입니다. fyi the outlet in plaza damas already has new management there. 참고하시기 바랍니다 광장 다마스의 콘센트에 이미 새로운 경영 거기. they told me that they will be offering existing members free classes until the end of September, after that everyone has to pay RM88 per month. 그들은 후에 모두가 한달에 지불하고있다 RM88들은 9 월말까지 기존 회원을 무료로 수업을 제공하게 될 것입니다 말해 줬어. so basically your existing membership is burned. 그래서 기본적으로 기존 회원 레코딩입니다. whether it is TJ's fault or not for running away with our money, that is the bottom line. 여부를 떠나 우리가 돈을 가지고, 그 하단에 선을 실행하기위한 TJ가 잘못하거나하지 않습니다.

The receiver is privately appointed by the damn minority shareholder, Lim Lay Gaik, though approved by the high court, but definitely still biased. 수신기를 비공개로 여전히 편파 망할 소액 주주, 임 레이 Gaik, 그래도 고등 법원의 승인을,하지만 확실히 의해 임명됩니다. The cowards receivers neither dare to pick up my calls nor meet me face-to-face while I was in their office at brickfields. 겁쟁이 수신기도 내 전화를 데리러도 감히 내 얼굴을 맞대고하는 동안 자신의 사무실에서 만나 brickfields했다.
I have printed out a status report of the receivership from court, this woman is using back-door tactic to take over YZ, she's now the new boss of this new crap yoga joint, call 'urban yoga', really a biXXh! 법정에서이 여자를 다시 사용하고있습니다 - 문 전술 YZ를 정복하고, 그녀는 지금이 새로운 쓰레기 요가를 공동의 새로운 보스의 법정 관리의 상태를보고 밖으로 인쇄되어, 전화 '도시의 요가', 정말 biXXh!
Think twice, think three times, TJ is the 90% shareholder, for every single dollar he conned, he gets only 10cent benefits. 생각을 두 번, 세 번, TJ가 그가 속이고 한사람 한사람이 1 달러 90 % 주주, 생각, 그는 단지 10cent 혜택을 가져옵니다. Furthermore, used your 6 years blood and sweat to con and leave the bad name behind? 또한, 사기 뒤에 나쁜 이름을두고 6 년간 피와 땀을 사용 하시나요? It's too not worthy the damage and the time consumed. 너무 손상 및 시간이 소모되는 가치가 아니에요.
I just know that in cheras and Sri petaling outlet, the once-credit contoller from celebrities fitness, the ex-sales manager of yoga zone, paullin long, was the root of the problem. 난 그냥 cheras와 스리랑카 petaling 콘센트, 유명 인사로부터 한 번 신용 contoller에 휘트니스 센터, 요가 영역 paullin 장기 전 영업 관리자, 문제의 루트에 있었는지. Receipts were issued in the way that the carbon copy was cancelled, but the original receipts were written with amount and cash collected from members. 영수증 방법은 탄소를 복사 취소되었다, 그러나 발행한 원본 영수증 금액을 현금으로 회원들로부터 수집된 기록했다. She also simply gives extra months to members up to 9 months free without getting her approval from the superior. 또한 그녀는 단순히 회원을 최대 9 개월 무료 우수한에서 그녀의 승인을 받고없이 추가로 달 수있습니다.
If you see carefully, the picture will be much clearer. 만약 당신이주의 깊게보고, 사진을 더 명확하게 될 것입니다. When an empire like this was built up, there's no way that the competitor can come close, it's understandable that the competitors will get envy, only way is to nail it down and everyone then have the chance to share this market pie.

sorry to preeps and onceAyoga as I'm too fedup of this con nonssence. But I think that bitch (Lay Gaik) should go for good. If TJ would open a new joint, I would certainly joint his club. TJ, please contact me and those eager member who wants to get back to your club if you happen to start operation again.

I wonder if Lay Gaik needs more money for her coffin as all the money she Con, I don't think that's enough. Maybe should get more members to contribute so she could have a bungalow type of coffin

i joined YFtiness inKota Kinabalu in 06/08, paid for a year's membership through my credit card, and after coming back from KL recenlty i find out that the outlet in KK is closed, no notice so whatsoever! i called one of the staff who encouraged me to sign up for one year mebership ( in June 08) she told me she quit 3 months ago( ironic since she was there when i signed up 3 months ago) and does not know what happened to the outlet since then….

is anyone else out there who are a gym member here in KK who are also frustrated and would like something to be done in order to get some sort of refund ?
This is daylight robbery!!

I am a member of Y Fitness KK too. I signed up for the one year monthly installment, but somehow they didn't charge me for last month and this month. Did you pay them upfront for a lifetime or yearly membership?

i payed upfront….:-(

is there any other gym in KK?

i'm so sad and angry to heard about the close down,
i sign up for the Y fitness at Brem mall fitness few weeks before the bad news spread out from news,, me and my 2 friends sign up for one year monthly installment, and the gym is not open yet…feeling being fooled by them..
I contacted the SA called jeanne tat intro the membership to us and she just give me a corporate number i had call few times but no one attended…
Is anyone goin to form group to voice out this problem ??
Have anyone report this issue to the consumer association?? i'm planning to since there is no news and no update…and i still need to continue make the payment every month…and it even not started yet…the more bad news is the Y fitness center not even build in the mall yet…
Using open more outlet tactics to get money from members to solve the financial problem does not seem working…
Does Mr TJ still in Malaysia or run away to another country??
Seemingly hopeless of stopping the monthly installment…
I'm really hopefully they will open back the gym…sob..sob..

i have been looking around for other gym in KK too. I asked about the fitness centre alocation in One Borneo, but unfortunately they haven't found any tenant yet.
And as i know they are fitness member in sutera harbour, tanjung aru resort, and le meridien too.

pinky, can't you try to ask the bank to stop the monthly deduction?

My friend and I both signed up for the “lifetime” membership package early Feb 08. It's really fustrating to know that we'll continue to pay our credit card for services that no longer would be provided to us.

Anyway, I've checked with Citibank with regards to the monthly deduction in my credit card. They have paid Y-Fitness upfront for the sum due. So in my case, I'm actually paying back Citibank. As such, there's no way for them to stop the deduction. Darn it!!

I am a yogaclub member too.
Went few times to their centre but its half open and the door is locked.
I couldnt get to enter and ask anything. I would like to know how they gonna settle the credit card installment people.. I heard there is thing like voucher.. not so sure thats yi 1 2 ask clearly but i dont have the chance.

Anyone is yogazone/club members?? can i know more about it..

I signed up last dec and left 4 months to pay the stupid money. 내가 마지막으로 12월 서명 및 바보 같은 돈을 지불을 4 개월 왼쪽. But its rly not worth for us to pay for nothing, isnt… i was thinking to take up instrutor course, luckily im stil thinking and never do anything. 우리가 아무것도 밤은 지불 ... 난 instrutor 코스 찍고, 운좋게도 및 stil 생각 메신저 아무것도하지 않을 생각하지만, 자사의 RLY 가치도 없어. And i called the worker that layan me to sign for them, he never answer too. 그리고 내가 너무 대답은 결코 노동자 날 그들 layan 서명 것을 촉구했다.

I heard about the taking over thingy. 내가 들어본 곳 인계. Does anyone has any latest update on that? 누구 그 모든 최신 업데이 트가?

you guy may go to this site 당신이 남자가이 사이트에 갈 수있습니다 http://ttpm.kpdnhep.gov.my/portal/index.php http://ttpm.kpdnhep.gov.my/portal/index.php . . Although we may not know it help or not. 비록 우리가 그것을하거나 도와 줄 알지 못할 수도있습니다. but at least we try. 하지만 적어도 우리가 시도해보십시오. or refer to 또는 참조 http://yogalover88.blogspot.com http://yogalover88.blogspot.com . . it is very comprehensive and detail on what is going on 그것은 매우 포괄적이고 자세하게 무슨 일이 있는지에

i think i will compalint ot the consumers association as well, thnx pinky for suggesting that…hopefully there's enough of us making noise for the legistative department to do something…this is clearly daylight robbery…especially for people who pay liftime mebership…. 나는뿐만 아니라 그 ... 다행히 우리가 무언가를 할 legistative 부서 ...이 분명 대낮에 강도가 ...에 대한 소음의 제안에 대한 thnx 핑키 소비자 협회는 자식 compalint 것, 특히 누구를 위해 liftime mebership 지불할 사람이 ....

Hi nightangle, 안녕하세요 nightangle,
when u are goin to the consumers association?? U 때 소비자 협회에 갈거야??
hope we can meet up and go together see can get any help from the association or not, i dunwan my hard earn money goin inside the drain..TT 우리가 만날 수있는 함께 협회 안에서 어떤 도움을받을 수 있는지 가서, 난 내 하드 TT .. 하수구 안으로 돈을 벌 dunwan가는 희망
They are blood sucking beast..take all our money and run like tat… 그들은 짐승이 피를 빠는 ... 우리의 모든 돈을 가져가 및 문신처럼 실행됩니다 ..

Hi guys, 안녕하세요 여러분,
I am not YZ victim. 난 아니에요 YZ 피해자. I join WMAC ( world martial art center) for Yoga class. 내가 WMAC 요가 수업 (세계 무술 아트 센터)에 가입. It is located opposite Ampang Park. 그것은 Ampang 공원 맞은편에 위치해있습니다. I find there is issue with the center's management. 난 거기에 센터의 관리와 문제를 찾으십시오. They cancel class w/o informing the member, I feel being cheated. 그들은 수업을 승 / O를 회원 알리는 취소, 난 속인이되는 느낌. I join the center becos of a line dance class on Monday. 난 월요일에 라인 댄스 클래스의 중심에 가입 becos. After the instructor quit, they just remove this class on Monday. 강사 후에, 그들은 그냥 월요일에이 클래스를 제거를 종료합니다. SO why I am still paying? 근데 왜 난 아직도 지불 무엇입니까? no line dance class, and another Yoga Instructor also quit recently.. 아무 라인 댄스 클래스, 그리고 또 다른 요가 강사 또한 최근 .. 종료 are they gonna close yoga class as well?? 그들은 요가 수업뿐만 아니라 주변거야??

hey pinky, 이봐 핑키,
i will probably go on a saturday or friday lunch time, because i am mostly stuck at work… 왜냐하면 대부분 직장에서 끼었어 아마 토요일이나 금요일 점심 시간에 가서 ..
but there's a from that will need to be filled out (can be downloaed and printed off) and pay the stamp duty and then give it to the ketua seksyen tribunal tuntutan Pengguna Malaysia, Tingkat 4 , Blok E , Bangunan KWSP, tel no: 088 257 690 or fax 088 269 244 하지만 그런 상황에서 자필 서명 (downloaed 수있습니다 끄고 인쇄) 및 인지세를 지불하고 다음 ketua seksyen 재판소 tuntutan Pengguna 말레이시아, Tingkat 4, Blok 전자, Bangunan KWSP, 전화 번호 : 088에게 줄 필요는 257 690 또는 팩스 088 269 244
the form can be downloaed at their website(se INez's message) 양식을 자신의 웹사이트 (하기 이네즈의 메시지에서) downloaed 수있습니다

What a shame! 쪽팔린 줄 알아라! I just found out that YogaZone has been closed down. 난 그냥 YogaZone 폐쇄되었습니다 알아 냈어. I bought 3 vouchers from a member in March, and I thought may be I can use it someday…and now that someday will never come…as I can't use my voucher in the Urban Yoga. 난 3 월 회원 3 상품권 구입, 그리고 내가 언젠가는 그것을 사용할 수있습니다 ... 그리고 지금은 그 언젠가는 오지 않겠다고 ... 내가 요가 도시 내 바우처를 사용할 수 없다고 생각 했어요.

I'm so regret…wasted my father's money, I still remember he wasn't happy that I buy the stupid vouchers. 정말 후회 해요 ... 난 아직도 그 바보 같은 쿠폰 구매 행복하지 않은 기억은 아버지의 돈을 낭비.

This taught me never buy anything unless you need it immediately or should buy it one at a time, do not get tempted by it because you think is a great bargain/offer! 이렇게하지 않으면 즉시 또는 필요 한 번에 하나씩 그것을 구매해야한다, 왜냐하면 당신이 생각하는 그것에 의해 유혹하지 마 내게 아무것도 구매하지 가르쳐 훌륭한 거래입니다 / 제안! Hate to learn this lesson this way! 이쪽이 교훈을 배울 수 참을 수없는 가벼움! But of course my case is nothing compare to those that had sign up as life members. 물론 내 경우에는 그 삶의 회원으로 가입했다 아무것도 비교됩니다.

Hi All, please check out the latest update from the website of yogazone 안녕하세요 모두 yogazone의 웹 사이트에서 최신 업데이 트를 확인하시기 바랍니다

http://www.yogazone.com.my http://www.yogazone.com.my

Hey nightangle, which form should i download? 어떤 형태로해야합니까 nightangle 다운로드 안녕하세요,?
Have you submit the form? 당신이 양식을 제출 있나요?
I want to ask you pay the membership fee by credit card installment or full cash? 난 당신의 신용 카드 할부 또는 현금으로 전체 회원에게 요금을 지불하고 싶어?

I wanna to claim back my money for the lifetime membership and also the previous monthly pass. 난 평생 회원도 이전의 월별 패스를 내 돈을 돌려 주장 싶어요. But I dont know whether I can get back my hard-earned money or not. Really regret to join YC.

Anyone from Endah Parade outlet?

nightangle,im from KK too and imagine my shock going to citymall today to see the gym has closed down!!! i signed up since last year and supposedly have til end of november before my 1 year membership ends..im totally in a blur right now…what exactly happened??

hi.. 안녕하세요 .. i am from endah parade outlet.. I joined one year programme but the package is free 6months and pay for one year fees.

I am regret too! sigh.. 한숨 ..

Valerie,do u go to meet anyone in endah parade outlet asking bout refunding or anything ? everytime i went thr, the door was locked with nobody at reception counter. SIGH!! i do not know wat should i do .. asking who.. or calling where to ask?

I din go to Endah Parade outlet but I did call them last few months. The stupid sales consultant still dare to ask me to sign up for new package in order to support their center. Already cheated so much money from the members and still they have the gut to continue with the cheating.

I really dont know what to do now. Really regret…

I am a member of Yoga Zone @ Y Fitness Kota Kinabalu. Very disappointing to say that when the management of Y Fitness were trying to sell their membership to people they even promised the stars and the moon. I signed up, so did my girlfriends. I inquired about the life time membership one day. Without my knowledge, the consultant just upgraded my membership just because I had asked a few question regarding the life time membership.

When I told her that I did not accept any lifetime membership offers, she (The consultant) bagged me to accept the lifetime membership just because she had committed to the management under my name. I was so disgusted and refuted that I did not signup for a life time membership.

Worst thing is there wasn't even any notice telling the members about what was going on to the fitness center in Kota Kinabalu. being the first fitness center in Kota Kinabalu. Not even one signal indicating what was going on! I have been calling the center to seek for explanation. Some said that they are closed due to change of management. Some said they are closed for renovation. Until 2 weeks ago I took the afford to see what was the reason for its closure. To my amazed it was a court order stated that the place has been ceased by a lawyer firm in Kuala Lumpur.

So now, my next question is does that mean all the money that all the members have paid is being burned just like that?

We are now joining a petition through a lawyer firm in Kota Kinabalu (Ting & Jublee Advocate & Solicitor) to take action on our behalf. Let it be a refund of a small amount but at least its what we deserve. The management should not leave its member without any explanation.

Is there anyone know that there is petition in KL side?

hi danie! im from KK too and just knew about the closure yesterday when i went to the gym after class. im truly surprised the way they dealt with this matter by leaving the members in the dark on the situation.can i join the petition too?

Most of u join the Y fitness at other outlets at least you had used it for months,
but for the kepong Y fitness tat i join..they evan not started to build the gym yet than the next day we know the yoga zone gone bankcrupt..and still we need to pay the installment…
Have anyone successful getting back the refund pls do inform~TT

please let me know how to go about this petition too…

oh my… i'm so sad to hear about this and i feel bad for all the people who signed up for the lifetime membership. i remember they were really aggressively selling me the lifetime membership and i kept on postponing it. good thing i didn't sign up in the end… but i still lost some money bec i paid in advance for the massages as Comfort Zone (which is the massage area of YogaZone Plaza Damas). I still have several fully paid massages not claimed.

I am sure that there are people out there like me who bought massages in advance thru Comfort Zone… i wonder what will happen to this? I guess we all learned a lot from this experience.

Not only learning about the risk in signing up for lifetime membership at fitness areas… but also be wary about pre-paid massages (and buying too many of it just bec of the good deal / good promotion).

=( = (

Hi all.. 안녕하세요 모두 ..

For me its a two way thing where marketing would be heavily emphasize o promotions. Otherwise, it wont even attract ppl to sign up. On how aggresive the sales team is, im not sure and ultimately as a consumer, u would be more attracted if u see a good promo upon signing up. The end decision is still yours to negotiate beyond the black and white paper. Personally, i dont think the sales team should be blame for forcing you to sign, without some 'forcing ability', you wont probably end up being a sales person.

the staff were persuading us while all the while the financial problem was happening…i was also encouraged to buy a lifetime membership not only for myself but for my partner as well, good thing we didnt…and it was just in early July this year…at that time i hear now some of the staff were not being paid for some months already….and when i called them to find out what happened after the unexpected closure they said they had resigned 3 months before ! and they dont know anything about the fitness closure ( and this was in August!)

fuk Y FITNESS!!! i was one of the victim. 1 month before the Centro Klang branch closed they still bugging me everyday for signing up!!

i signed up and i go back to kk few week for some biz stuff. when i come back to klang, they already closed their premise!!!

DAMN!!!! 젠장할!! anyone from KK who gonna lodge complaint to them??

come we make thing together.

sms me 013-242 8661

they have even drop down their webpage

http://www.yfitness.com.my/

DAMN!!!! 젠장할!!

fuck the new Centro Klang's CHI

its the same thing i need to pay another RM1xx every month and what benefit they talking about??? (apart from my money 1.8k that YF already scammed)

i dont see any than wanna eat money from us again

so anyone could tell me how to fill the kdnhep form against Y Fitness klang?

should it be the same like

Name of Respondent : The Yoga Zone Group Sdn Bhd 피신 청인의 이름 : 요가 지대 그룹 Sdn Bhd
IC No. / Registration Company No. : 680406-X IC는 번호 / 등록 회사 번호 : 680406 - X를
Address : No. 30-1, Jalan 2/109E, Desa Business Park, Taman Desa, Off Jalan Klang Lama, 58100 Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.
Tel. 전화. No. : 03 – 7987 7680
H/P No. : nil
Fax No. : 03 – 7983 2676
Email : 이메일 : info@yogazone.com.my

??? ???

Anyone learn yoga around Cheras areas? Sri petaling or Bukit jalil?

I wish to learn yoga again.. but i dare not to sign up for this kind of membership anymore.

Any yoga centre provides service like paying monthly fees and learn ?

Thanx 고맙습니다

Hi Marilyn,
I am not sure about Yoga centre around Cheras area, but I am aware of some in the area of Kuchai Entrepreneur Park, Off Kuchai Lama.
In fact, I am considering taking up the class at OneYoga there (www.oneyogacentre.com). I found that quite a number of ex-YogaZone trainers are teaching at the place now. They also informed me that their Bukit Jalil branch will be opening next Feb.
- Ken

Just tried out the trial class at OneYoga, Kuchai Entrepreneur Park. It cost me RM10 (for two classes). The offer there now is RM788 for two person, which entitles for 3 months + 2 weeks, unlimited use. Their concept is pretty much like YogaZone, they have classes running throughout the day, and you can just hop in any of the classes you like.
Setup there is quite good, with the studio room larger than Tmn Desa YogaZone. Shower and locker facilities are good too. This morning class was Power, which essential comprises of sun salutions, and some stretching asanas. I would think it will suit most of the Beginner – Intermediate students. I think I will go back again.

Looks like Clark Hatch has taken over the Y fitness centre in Centro Klang. They are currently open for business….They are charging RM105 per month via direct debit method via credit card or bankcard….What abt our deposits for life membership from Y Fitness? Is there any legal avenues to recover our money?

Hi all, I have just turned up at the Tribunal court this morning for the claim of my newly paid membership for renewal for YogaZone. The receiver company didnt have anyone turn up the event, so the Tribunal court issued an order for the receiver court to attend the court.
Anyone here have any latest with claim? Tho I know chances are slim to get any money back, I still feel that it's worth the try.
- Ken

Hi Ken, thanx for your info :)
I am quite afraid to pay an amount for a long/short term of classes. But so far, i never come across with any yoga center which offers monthly payment basis. Quite upset. As i am still a student, so actually i cant afford to pay a huge amount by myself in one time. But i really wish to continue my yoga class. :) I went to OneYoga for enquiry before about their promotion and classes etc before i signed with Yogazone. So bad luck i choose yogazone. SIGH!

Hi, any one join Urban Yoga in Plaza Damas?
How was their facilities and service, do they maintain the standard as Yogazone?

Hi Marilyn,
I understand what you mean as I have the same concern too in committing long term membership.
So have you signed up with any clubs yet? Do you have any good ones to recommend as I am still hoping to check out others first before making my decision. A friend of mine asked to check out MYoga in MidValley.

Now, dont dare to sign up with any yoga club.

So, I've read all the comments. Each and everyone of them. I actually enrolled in Y Fitness Kota Kinabalu December last year. Then suddenly one day when I went to the gym around August/December, boom! It's closed. At first I thought maybe it was just an off day for them. Later I heard my friend telling me something about Y Fitness facing some sort of finanacial problems. So, I called them to reaffirm. No one answered. 아무도 대답했다. My father drove there and have a look. There was a court order on a piece of paper in the door. Few days later when I went to that location, I see that all gym equipments were no longer there. What a way to greet us.

I just want to know if there's any refund for my membership. Recently, I received an sms stating that there is going to be full refunds for Y Fitness in City Mall, Kota Kinabalu. I don't know if it's true. If it's true, that would be great. But how can we get our refunds? I mean, there's no instructions or whatsoever directions that state where we should go to or proceed. Could someone please tell me what I should do?

Sorry, I meant August/September.

Hi Grace

I too was a member of Y Fitness @ City Mall, KK. My friends and I didn't receive any sms regarding full refunds for Y Fitness. So there's no truth to it. Even if there were to be any refunds I doubt it'll be paid in full.

Nope, i havent sign up any new yoga classes. “PHOBIA” :)
but wish to learn yoga again, sigh~

I found out that yoga lounge in kuchai lama.. anyone is learning yoga there?

I wanted to start learning Yoga and surfing around for a good Yoga center… I live near Kuchai Lama and considering OneYoga, YogaLounge and 72Yoga Studio…

Both OneYoga and Yoga Lounge offer very nice ambiance which look comfortable, however 72 Yoga studio look a bit simple and dim. Anyway I think my main consideration of learning Yoga should not be putting on the renovated ambience but the true concept of Yoga.

72 Yoga studio – seems to practicing a very good concept of healthy and meaningful lifestyle by offering not even Yoga, but charity activity, camp etc..
One Yoga – Look more pro and offering more type of Yoga, anyway I do not know what are the difference and considering
Yoga Lounge- the ambience give me good impression but I suspect the gal who talked to me is a smoker, which I think true Yoga people would not smoke since they are promoting and offering health service.

I am deciding between One Yoga and 72 Yoga studio, anybody has any comment?

In terms of payment- to those who is looking for Monthly payment, yes, 72 Yoga studio offering such.

I found this site given quite a good details of the Yoga centre found in Kuchai Lama:
http://yogalover88.blogspot.com/2008/08/yoga-centers-at-kuchai-entrepreneur.html

Hi Rain, 안녕하세요 비,
I have attended the two sessions of the trial classes at OneYoga (I have practiced Yoga for over a year now, until YogaZone closed down recently). The good thing about One Yoga is that the studios are large and spacious, so you would not have to experience the “sardin-type” classes where hand touches hand. The front desk Ms Samantha is helpful and pleasant attitude, so that's nice. Shower room facilities (for men at least) is decent and nice.
Now when come to the instructors, based on the two classes I attended, I would say “not bad”. I think they are adequate, but I wouldn't put it as very good.
I am kind of in a dilemma now as to whether I should check out more other places, or should I just sign up OneYoga. After all, it's a 3 months deal, so worse case I just switch to you other places if I do find better ones.
May I know where 72Yoga is located, near OneYoga?
Cheers, Ken

72 Yoga studio is at the same row with Old Town Kopitiam Kuchai Lama…if u like spacious yoga centre, think 72 Yoga Studio is kind of small… anyway juz check it out ^-^

Hi to every victim of YOgazone,

Im oso was a member from Tmn Desa headquarter club. Practice for 1 year de. Since the closed down of the whole yoga zone group through out Malaysia on Sept till now, im wonder anybody have any idea or new updates that the new receivers Messrs Ferrier Hodgson MH Sdn Bhd going to open back the club? In the main homepage of YZ (www.yogazone.com.my), they had posted up a notice but didnt mention any action will be taken. As i have assumed that all my installment money will not get refund back, so now i just wish there will be a replacement club for all ex-YZ member.

Fyi, i had already paid 11th c.card installment and there still 1 month left for me to paid!!! but the worst part is this whole 1 year renewal membership, i still havent activated yet. so now im still thinking weather need to paid it o not as the bank will still charge us interest fee if we didnt clear the debt……*sigh*!!!!

To Ken // Nov 24, 2008 at 1:49 pm,

Do u think it will be too late if i make a complaint report to Tribunal now? As there is a new in Sinchew Daily dated 11th Dec 2008, there were 5 members success win the case to claim back refund for membership fee but same case as yours that the defendant didnt turn up.

please to receive feedback and opinion from everybody!!!!

thank you and wish everybody good luck!!

How to make claim in Tribunal? I am not expert in this. What are the documents required? Btw, will it be too late if I file the claim now? I really wish to get back my money as my financial is very tight now.

hope somebody can show me the light… desperate now…

Hi Sea,
I am not sure if it's too late to file a complaint but I would give it a go if I were you. No harm right? It is quite straight forward. As in the Sin Chew news dated 11/12/08, are you sure that it mentioned 5 members of YogaZone successfully claimed there refund back? I read any article on that day on SinChew but didn't see that part of the news. Would you mind to send me the article please? It would be good news if there has been successful claimants.

Hi Valerie,
As mentioned to the Sea above, I would still give it a go at the tribunal, no harm done. I will try post up the website later which you could download the forms to submit to the tribunal.

How does a consumer file a claim in the Tribunal?
A claim can be filed in the Tribunal by filling up the claim form which is known as Form 1. This Form is available free of charge from all Tribunal branches and can even be downloaded from the e-Tribunal portal.

Form 1 must be completed in 4 copies by the claimant and filed in the nearest office of the Tribunal. The filing fee for Form 1 is RM5.00 and an official receipt will be issued to the claimant.

Form 1 will be registered dated and signed by the Secretary or an Assistant Secretary of the Tribunal and affixed with the seal of the Tribunal. Two copies of Form 1 that have been affixed with the seal of the Tribunal shall be returned to the claimant for service. Service of Form 1 to a respondent may be affected in any of the following manner:

leaving the document with the director, manager, secretary or other similar officer of the company or the proprietor of the firm;
giving the document to any of the persons mentioned above; or
posting the document in a pre-paid registered letter addressed to any of the persons mentioned above at the registered office of the company or firm or at its address for service

Note: Since YogaZone in under the Receivership, so the service of Form1 will be directed to the Receiver. Their details as follow:
Ferrier Hodgson MH Sdn Bhd, No. 22, Jalan Tun Sambathan 3, 50470 Kuala Lumpur
What happens after filing Form 1?
The consumer has to serve Form 1 on the trader and both parties are required to attend a hearing of the claim on the date fixed by the Tribunal.

How should the parties prepare for the hearing before the Tribunal?
The parties should gather all relevant documents regarding the claim and get ready any witnesses to attend the hearing. Any party can also bring along a family member, friend etc. to assist them at the hearing. However, no lawyers are allowed to represent either party at the hearing.

What happens after the Tribunal hearing?
If the claim is settled with the consent of both parties, the Tribunal will issue an agreed award (Note: All Tribunal orders are known as awards). If the claim is not settled, the Tribunal will issue an award based on the assessment of the facts and the law involved. The President will give his reasons for the award.

What happens if any one party does not comply with an award of the Tribunal?
Non-compliance with a Tribunal award is a criminal offence under the Consumer Protection Act, 1999. Any complain of non-compliance with an award should be made to the Enforcement Division, Ministry of Domestic Trade and Consumer Affairs.

Tribunal Branches

WILAYAH PERSEKUTUAN KUALA LUMPUR
Ketua Seksyen
Tribunal Tuntutan Pengguna Malaysia
Tingkat 16, Putra Place
100, Jalan Putra
50622 KUALA LUMPUR.
TEL: 03-4042 4181 / 4042 4194
FAX: 03-4042 4259

SELANGOR
Ketua Seksyen
Tribunal Tuntutan Pengguna Malaysia
Lot 03-13, Tingkat 3, Bangunan PKNS
40622 SHAH ALAM, SELANGOR.
TEL: 03-5511 8271 / 5511 4929
FAX: 03-5511 6981

For Penang, Malacca and Sabah, please refer to this link:
http://ttpm.kpdnhep.gov.my/portal/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=22&Itemid=30

Guideline to help you fill in the Form 1 http://ttpm.kpdnhep.gov.my/portal/images/stories/tribunal/how_to_fill_form1.pdf

Excerpt from Fei's comment, we should fill up Yogazone particular (as per below) in the Respondent column.

Name of Respondent : The Yoga Zone Group Sdn Bhd
IC No. / Registration
CompanyNo. : 680406-X
Address : No. 30-1, Jalan 2/109E, Desa Business Park, Taman Desa, Off Jalan Klang Lama,58100, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.
Tel. 전화. No. : 03 – 7987 7680
H/P No. : nil
Fax No. : 03 – 7983 2676
Email : 이메일 : info@yogazone.com.my
You may download the Form 1 from this link: http://ttpm.kpdnhep.gov.my/portal/images/stories/tribunal/form_1.pdf

Hope the above information is useful for you and for further detail, you may refer to Tribunal for Consumer Claims Malaysia.

Thanks a lot Ken, you really a great helper in this matter. At least now I know what to do and how to do. Once again, million thanks.

You are welcomed Valerie. Do keep us posted if you have made any progress. I am eager to hear if anyone out there has successful gotten their refund back…

http://yogalover88.blogspot.com/2008/12/tribunal-for-consumer-claims-yogazone.html

Yes! 예! someone did get their money back.

Good luck to others who affected :)

Hi Rain,
Many many thanks for the news article !
However I think that, although the 5 claimants have been given winning by the tribunal court, it doesn't mean that they have received the refund back from YOGAZone yet. Do take a look at the article below by another member:

http://www.malaysiabrides.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=8621&st=30

“YogaZone has been placed under receivership. When a company is in receivership, all debts incurred by the company prior to the appointment of the receiver and manager, will be paid in accordance to Section 191 and 292 of the Companies Act, 1965. ie the secure creditor will come first (ie debenture holder (bank(s)), then if there is any surplus, it will be used to pay the preferential creditors (eg employees, EPF, tax….) and IF there are still surpluses, then only the unsecured creditors will get paid (suppliers, and customers, like those who actually signed up and paid their membership fees).
The gist of it is that if the secured creditor don't get paid in full, no one else gets paid. no matter where you go. or if you have a judgement.”

Meanwhile, I would like to know any ex-YZ members out there who's actually received the refund…

In any case, many thanks Rain for the sharing of article. Let's hope we have more good news to come…

- Ken

Looks like Core Fitness is taking over Y Fitness here in KK. Not much details about it thus far. But the big question is “Will it restore the confidence of gym goers here or suffer the same fate as Y Fitness??”

Hi Oriental Poet,

I just joined Core Fitness @ City Mall yesterday, everything seems ok there. The most they charge 1 year – RM1200, 12 month contract @ Rm150 – pay 1st month & last 2 months + RM 90 = total of RM540 then monthly RM 150 until the 10th month then renew rate at RM150 and 1 month RM180 Non contract.
I personally took the RM1200. Met their Boss Mr. CK Tan, he's a owner of several business in KK. So i got the confident to join.

Ethan n Danny is back to KK now. I think not much to worry, they even give free hand towel when sign up, is better than last time. I can't find any gym in kk provide more facilities in that good price in kk so i joined Core Fitness. You should go and check it out.

The company that took over Yogazone 's operation in Plaza Damas and Kepong is called Urbanyoga. We were told that as ex members /life time members we could enjoy the special rate of RM88 per month. If we were life members then we were allowed for 3 years.

On March 1st they decided to change the rule again, saying that the company will not honour this . This pledge was not made by them.

Anyone knows what can be done.!

Being cheated again.

Judy 쥬디

Judy,

This is the minority shareholder, Lay Gaik, to snatched the business from the founder followed by keep on changing entity and not to honour the previous membership. You will never know how cunning is this woman as she successfully using RM 600,000 to swallow three outlets, now the these outlets were sold to TSM, another entity which apparently is related to Lay Gaik.

If Mun likes to mention about the bad apple, this is the worst ever apple you can find in Malaysia fitness and wellness scene.

The new rule is “ALL MEMBERS WILL BE CHARGED FOR RM 168 MONTHLY!”,stupid, higher than fitness first one club membership fees, I believe that she's too big headed to carry on this business.

Good luck to all! 모두에게 행운을 빌어!

I used to be a member of Y Fitness. I joined this club with full confidence in early 2008. I even signed up for a personal training membership. All in all I spent about RM3,000 for a year membership. However, 2 or 3 months down the road, the centre starts to show signs of bad management and maintenance. There was always no water for showering and we signed a petition on that and the management did nothing!! I had hardly use the membership and not even 2 months into my personal training, I was informed that the centre is closing down. Worst of all, the bank is still charging me the installment. I filed a claim to the managing company of this case in KL and a copy of my claim has been sent to my bank and this was in September 2008. From then till now, nothing has been done and I don't even know if I can ever get back my money!!!

Now that Core Fitness is opened, I have been receiving numerous calls from them to get me to go back. Honestly, do you think for an ex member who has already had a bad experience with the previous fitness centre would actually want to sign back again even though the management people are totally different? Let me tell you, until today I have hugely refused to go back simply because I have spent about RM3,000 before and I can't even get back a single cent and I am encouraged to go back??? My confidence in a new fitness centre in KK has dropped to beyond zero. They do not even come up with a special or different package to entice the old members to come back. What a bad marketing strategy!

they are all cheater, enuf said… throw the cunning y fitness to hell

My last phone conversation with Ferrier Hodgson was in earlier of this year and till now nothing has been done and not a single word from them. WILL I EVER GET BACK MY MONEY, WHICH HAS ALREADY BEEN PAID IN FULL TO Y FITNESS ????

Hi, Is this issue still active? I have recently been subject to some questionable behaviour from one of the largest chains. Is there another website/ location where these things are actively discussed?

Stef Stef

Hello there. 안녕하세요. My name is Samuel Tan. Most people call me Sam. I'm the founder and director of CORE FITNESS in Kota Kinabalu. I came across this blog post about a year back, when we were just starting up CORE, and i was informed and rather shocked at the severity of the Yoga Zone Group situation.

My father, CK Tan, and I saw starting CORE as a real challenge and it's kind of a dream come true for me to be able to run a full-on fitness centre. Fitness and health has been my passion for many years, and i'm privileged to be able to share the gift of strong bodies and minds in my own hometown.

From reading comments such as Rosey's here, and from some other blogs i have come across, I can totally understand the mistrust and apprehension that some of the Y-Fitness members are feeling. It is totally natural, and totally human. I would probably be totally furious if the same thing happened to me. The whole situation is/was a real black mark in Malaysia's fitness industry.

But we're moving forward. CORE will be celebrating it's Anniversary Bash this March, and we're launching new programs for both GX and PT. 2010 is an exciting year for us, and we're looking forward to many more years to come.

If you're still feeling burnt from Y, it's totally okay. but if you're in KK and you're thinking about moving forward in your fitness and lifestyle, you know where to look.

Wishing you all of God's best.

Sam Tan
Managing Director 전무 이사
CORE FITNESS, Sabah.